Cory Maye, another drug war victim

[Borodog]

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Well, if there's a silver lining in this horrible story, at least the cop was killed.

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You're scum.

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Why?

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Because you find redemptive value in the loss of a human life. I cannot even begin to fathom your justification for this, so I'll chalk it up to simple stupidity, or a desire to say outrageous things in order to gain attention. Pathetic people do things like that all the time.

Are you saying that he deserved to die because of his mistake or because he was an officer? Either is despicable. If you're saying it was because of his mistake, then I hope you're placed in a similar situation one day and shown mercy so that you can actually realize how ignorant you are. If you're saying it's because he was a police officer (which I'll assume is the case, given your self-imposed "anarchocapitalist" title), then I can only hope that one day, an officer lays his life on the line to save someone that you care about.

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How was he "laying his life on the line to save someone" ? Hint: He wasn't.

He was a jackbooted thug engaged in a pre-dawn raid, probably dressed head to toe in black and carrying a machine gun, on the home of an American who he believed had committed the crime of . . . commerce. He and his ilk kill thousands of people every year and destroy hundreds of thousands of lives. Drug use would have to exceed 100% for the harm from drugs to match the harm from the drug war.

I feel sad for the family of the police officer. I even feel sad that he threw his life away in the pursuit of evil. But he should have picked a better job.

[tripp0807]

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How was he "laying his life on the line to save someone" ? Hint: He wasn't.

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When did I say this particular officer did? Hint: I didn't. I implied that police officers do this on a regular basis, without regard to the things said by idiots like you.

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I feel sad for the family of the police officer. I even feel sad that he threw his life away in the pursuit of evil. But he should have picked a better job.

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PLEASE reconcile the above with the statement below.

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Well, if there's a silver lining in this horrible story, at least the cop was killed.

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[Beer and Pizza]

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We are talking about a natural plant here, not someone breaking a commandment.

You are the worst agruer on the forum.

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You confuse commandments with crimes.

You confuse plants with crimes.

Both murder and drugs ruin people's lives, in different ways and to different degrees. Crimes are crimes for a reason. In time, as you mature, you will understand this.

[Autocratic]

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We are talking about a natural plant here, not someone breaking a commandment.

You are the worst agruer on the forum.

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You confuse commandments with crimes.

You confuse plants with crimes.

Both murder and drugs ruin people's lives, in different ways and to different degrees. Crimes are crimes for a reason. In time, as you mature, you will understand this.

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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?

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If you're not furious about the drug war yet, you're just ignorant.


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And if the police had been raiding a child porn ring, you would feel differently?

[Borodog]

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How was he "laying his life on the line to save someone" ? Hint: He wasn't.

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When did I say this particular officer did? Hint: I didn't. I implied that police officers do this on a regular basis, without regard to the things said by idiots like you.

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Well, if you're going to get all pissy, let's just destroy your argument from the top down. First you provide two alternatives for why I would think it's a good thing that the cop was killed. A) He made a mistake (storming into the wrong serf's house), or B) He was a police officer. I thought my response would make it clear that neither of these two options is the correct one, but I guess I have to spell it out. It's a good thing he was killed because he was a thug engaged in a war of oppression against the very people he is supposed to "serve and protect."

Furthermore, what was the point of hoping that a police officer "lays his life on the line to save someone I love" if it is not part of your argument that that was what the officer was doing? If it had been a firefighter who was shot while attempting to mug someone, and I said that was a just outcome, would you have said "I hope a firefighter one day lays his life on the line for you" or something? What would that have to do with the firefighter's actions in that particular case? What does the fact that other police officers lay their lives on the line to protect citizens have to do with police officers who attack citizens?

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I feel sad for the family of the police officer. I even feel sad that he threw his life away in the pursuit of evil. But he should have picked a better job.

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PLEASE reconcile the above with the statement below.

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Well, if there's a silver lining in this horrible story, at least the cop was killed.

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I feel sorry for him. He probably never realized that he was one of the bad guys. He probably thought he was one of the good guys, doing something noble. But he was wrong. He was a bad guy, engaged in an evil business. And it is a good thing when bad guys, by my definition those who violently aggress against others, are killed. One less violent aggressor in the world.

[Beer and Pizza]

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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?

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Of course we can question our laws. In fact these laws have often been questioned, and the voters, who make the decisions, have repeatedly sent legislators who support the criminalization of harmful drugs.

Crimes are crimes because the people throuogh their representatives want them to be crimes. Go ahead and call that a generalization, but the American people want drugs criminalized.

[Autocratic]

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"Crimes are crimes for a reason" is one of the dumbest generalizations I've ever heard. I guess we better stop questioning laws then, right?

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Of course we can question our laws. In fact these laws have often been questioned, and the voters, who make the decisions, have repeatedly sent legislators who support the criminalization of harmful drugs.

Crimes are crimes because the people throuogh their representatives want them to be crimes. Go ahead and call that a generalization, but the American people want drugs criminalized.

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So your "reason" is popular support? What about laws that don't have popular support? And does popular support always justify a law that may be inefficien, corrupt, or unjust in practice?

[Borodog]

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If you're not furious about the drug war yet, you're just ignorant.


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And if the police had been raiding a child porn ring, you would feel differently?

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Children are not competent to contract. They are victims in such an undertaking, by definition. There is nothing analogous about the two situations.

A better analogy would be, "What if the police were raiding a liquor store," or "What if the police were raiding a brothel," or "What if the police were raiding a card room."

[slickpoppa]

This page disagrees with your account of the story:
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I don't knwo enough about this case to separate fact from fiction, but it appears that there is much more gray area to this than you are giving it credit for. If it were so obvious that this guy was acting in reasonable self-defense, why would he have been convicted? Yeah, juries are dumb sometimes, but I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that this guy is compeltely innocent.