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Old 08-24-2005, 07:39 AM
Wevie Wevie is offline
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Default Raise more PF with AK?

Did I not raise enough PF with one min raise before me?

***** Hand History for Game 2588910327 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15117308 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, August 24, 07:34:27 EDT 2005
Table Table 39774 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: ydragon15 ( $835 )
Seat 7: HERO ( $705 )
Seat 8: Gaborfski ( $690 )
Seat 6: sadleir ( $760 )
Seat 4: Dboggs25 ( $830 )
Seat 3: Heeswijk ( $870 )
Seat 5: tmsbbf ( $1045 )
Seat 10: BENWEISER03 ( $725 )
Seat 9: Willemo333 ( $800 )
Seat 2: mr_terry333 ( $740 )
Trny:15117308 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh Ad ]
BENWEISER03 calls [15].
ydragon15 folds.
mr_terry333 folds.
Heeswijk folds.
Dboggs25 raises [30].
tmsbbf folds.
sadleir folds.
HERO raises [55].
Gaborfski folds.
Willemo333 folds.
BENWEISER03 calls [40].
Dboggs25 calls [25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Ac, Td ]
BENWEISER03 bets [30].
Dboggs25 raises [60].
HERO raises [300].
BENWEISER03 folds.
Dboggs25 raises [480].
HERO is all-In [350]
Dboggs25 calls [110].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
Dboggs25 shows [ Ah, Tc ] two pairs, aces and tens.
HERO shows [ Kh, Ad ] a pair of aces.
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Old 08-24-2005, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: Raise more PF with AK?

You probably woulda taken this one anyway, but you didn't raise enough. Raise about pot size. There's 25 in the pot from the blinds, 15 from the limper, 30 from the minraiser, and 30 more from your call. That's 100, so you should raise 100 for a total of 130.
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Old 08-24-2005, 07:49 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Raise more PF with AK?

I don't agree really, I'd just call the 30, I don't like to re-raise AK as it's hardly ever worth it. On the flop the pot is then smaller and you can maybe get away from TPTK, though it would be hard.

Edit: Unless it is for all my stack, then I like to re-raise. But here that's ludicrous.
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Old 08-24-2005, 07:52 AM
nyc999 nyc999 is offline
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Default Re: Raise more PF with AK?

I would bring it up to about 90. I guess what you are really wondering is what raise you needed to make in order to scare away the ATo that beat you...this depends, because at the low levels many donks treat Ax as gold.

I also probably wouldn't have raised so much on the flop, maybe brought it up to 200.
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Old 08-24-2005, 07:53 AM
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Default Re: Raise more PF with AK?

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I don't agree really, I'd just call the 30, I don't like to re-raise AK as it's hardly ever worth it. On the flop the pot is then smaller and you can maybe get away from TPTK, though it would be hard.

Edit: Unless it is for all my stack, then I like to re-raise. But here that's ludicrous.

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I agree, but if you're going to raise, raise pot preflop.
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Old 08-24-2005, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: Raise more PF with AK?

Yeah. The only reason I can see for a raise like this is to "buy the blinds" which doesn't work often enough and is over-rated anyway, I think. Pot-sized is the way to go if you want to raise. The issue I have with that is it then commits about 15-20% of your stack and you'll be faced with a tough decision on a flop you miss - which is why I prefer just to call.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:03 AM
TWINUNO TWINUNO is offline
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Default Re: Raise more PF with AK?

Def need a pot size bet your, calling isnt the to bad since your OOP. The sad part is at the 11's the AT would be comming no matter what.
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