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Old 11-08-2005, 07:44 PM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default Re: 3 Preflop Folds w/QQ or KK-please chime in

I like them all.

Ryan
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:54 PM
GoodTiMes GoodTiMes is offline
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Default Re: 3 Preflop Folds w/QQ or KK-please chime in

This is why I only play short handed.

This is not real poker...
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:18 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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i would fold all of them as well.
gl.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:33 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: 3 Preflop Folds w/QQ or KK-please chime in

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Hand 3: hero has QQ in CO. Different villain with 1K minraises UTG, hero raises to 150, villain raises to 400, hero folds.

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This is a very powerful 90% AA tell when you see it. It's pretty rare at the higher levels.

I have no problem with any of your folds.
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:08 PM
NajdorfDefense NajdorfDefense is offline
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Default Re: 3 Preflop Folds w/QQ or KK-please chime in

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All these hands are 10/20 NL

Hand 1: hero has KK on button. Villain has 2K I cover (24/4/2 over 440 hands) raises to 85, hero raises to 300, villain raises to 1000, hero folds.

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I think I threw up in my mouth. Someone playing 24/2.5 would be pfr w/ AA, KK, QQ, and AK only. KK is a large favorite against that range.

Your villain is playing 40% more *worse* hands than that!

QQ, I can agree, if you feel he's that tight then fold, fine.

Naj

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So you've given me a not at all interesting analysis of his UTG pfr standards. Now please tell me if you still think that a 22/4 has AK in his RERAISE HALF HIS STACK standard. I don't even see him doing this with QQ. Anyway, he raises with 40% worse hands than me, but I definitely think the re-reraise helps us narrow hish and range significantly.

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Well then I'm not sure why you asked the question, if your read is such that he would reraise *only* with AA, then it is a trivial fold, obviously.
Otherwise, folding seems like a waste.

Naj
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:53 PM
whitelime whitelime is offline
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They're all easy folds. People don't bluff PF as much as wacky betting patterns may indicate.
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