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Old 11-23-2005, 10:58 PM
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Default Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

I apologize if such a thread has been created before, but here we go...

Imagine you are a pro, say someone as good as Phil Ivey. It is the first hand of the WSOP main event. You are in the BB. Everyone folds to the SB, who moves all in.

You look down and find AA. Regardless of what you believe the SB to have... is this an instant call?

Some people seem to argue that someone as good as Phil Ivey doesn't need to take such a quick risk, even tho he is a very likely favourite to any of the SB's range of hands. Some would argue that he could "out play" many other plays without having to risk all of his chips.

Then again, winning this pot would put Phil in a great position to be very aggressive, and dominate the table, and perhaps the rest of the tournament.

Some argue, if you're not willing to put everything in with AA in this situation, maybe you don't have what it takes to win the tournament, since you obviously need some luck to get there anyways. What better than to move your money in with the best hand possible preflop?

Thoughts?
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

As you suggest, this situation has been gone over ad nauseum. To quote Doyle Brunson when asked about this scenario:

"The day I fold AA preflop is the day I quit playing poker."

That about sums it up.

Frank
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

You have to call, I don't care who you are. If he has a smaller pair, my guess at this point, then you are 4-1 favorite. It's going to be tough to find a point when you are a better favorite at any point in a hand.
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

Did the other 2000 posts regarding this theoretical situation just not do it for you?
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

Alright, I didn't look at the post, but I'm gonna take a wild guess and say "CALL."
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

This isn't even the right forum for this. Post this to the MTT forum so you can be flamed by the right people [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

WTF? This isn't even a very good "Should I fold AA" situation. This is one of the best places you'll find to get your money in.

Like Chipo Greensteen said, the Day I risk my tournament on one pair is the day Coca Cola stock skyrockets to record highs.
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

this is one if the dumbest posts i have ever read. Good idea to fold AA with a chance to double up on the first hand. even a player as good as phil ivey has to get lucky to win the wsop, just look at this years final table.
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: Theoretical situation.. first hand of the WSOP main event

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I apologize if such a thread has been created before, but here we go...

Imagine you are a pro, say someone as good as Phil Ivey. It is the first hand of the WSOP main event. You are in the BB. Everyone folds to the SB, who moves all in.

You look down and find /

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I stopped reading here.
J4o? Fold and look for a better situation.
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:42 AM
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easiest call in the world...people like you are the reason we make so much money
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