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#1
09-17-2005, 10:14 PM
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Unusual line with QQ
Converter doesn't like this hand for some reason....
I'm in the BB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. 2 limpers, SB completes, I raise, limpers call, SB folds (lol). Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG bets, limper folds, I call. Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG bets, I call River: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG bets, I call Yeah? 
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#3
09-17-2005, 10:18 PM
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Re: Unusual line with QQ
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Raise that river. [/ QUOTE ] Why? He never folds a weak ace, he 3-bets good ones and sets, and he folds air and busted draws, and maybe even a pair some of the time. Added all up I think a raise is -EV
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#5
09-17-2005, 10:21 PM
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Re: Unusual line with QQ
You like the calldown though? Usually I fold the turn against these weak noobs in the 2/4, but they also usually slowplay their monsters... I would expect a check behind on the flop and a turn raise if he actually had an A.
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#6
09-17-2005, 10:23 PM
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Re: Unusual line with QQ
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Bet/fold? [/ QUOTE ] This might have merit.
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#7
09-17-2005, 10:25 PM
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Re: Unusual line with QQ
Yeah. It might be a leak of mine, but I'm not folding QQ on a two Ace flop heads up post flop.
I will usually lead the flop, though. But I think mixing it up and going straight into c/c is pretty solid, too, especially without a read. I'd hate to lead the flop and turn and get turn-raised. If opponent is bluff prone, I might take that line and call down.
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#8
09-17-2005, 10:45 PM
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Re: Unusual line with QQ
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[ QUOTE ] Raise that river. [/ QUOTE ] Why? He never folds a weak ace, he 3-bets good ones and sets, and he folds air and busted draws, and maybe even a pair some of the time. Added all up I think a raise is -EV [/ QUOTE ] Its played dependant, but we get called a lot more then you think. If you're worried he only 3-bets with what beats us, then we fold to a 3-bet. But mid pockets and misc holdings like K high will call the river raise, convincing themselves its a bluff.
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#9
09-17-2005, 10:46 PM
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Re: Unusual line with QQ
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Raise that river. [/ QUOTE ] Why? He never folds a weak ace, he 3-bets good ones and sets, and he folds air and busted draws, and maybe even a pair some of the time. Added all up I think a raise is -EV [/ QUOTE ] Its played dependant, but we get called a lot more then you think. If you're worried he only 3-bets with what beats us, then we fold to a 3-bet. But mid pockets and misc holdings like K high will call the river raise, convincing themselves its a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that we get called w/ a lot of weaker holdings here. <font color="green"> </font>
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#10
09-17-2005, 11:54 PM
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Re: Unusual line with QQ
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Raise that river. [/ QUOTE ] Why? He never folds a weak ace, he 3-bets good ones and sets, and he folds air and busted draws, and maybe even a pair some of the time. Added all up I think a raise is -EV [/ QUOTE ] Its played dependant, but we get called a lot more then you think. If you're worried he only 3-bets with what beats us, then we fold to a 3-bet. But mid pockets and misc holdings like K high will call the river raise, convincing themselves its a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that we get called w/ a lot of weaker holdings here. <font color="green"> </font> [/ QUOTE ] Since it is 2/4, we will probably get called a decent amount by othe pairs. K-high ocassionally. The real question is, do we win two bets with a check-raise more than we lose two bets? I'm not so sure.
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