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Old 12-08-2005, 03:25 PM
charlie_t_jr charlie_t_jr is offline
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Well between his book and Pokerstars, would I dare say...gulp...Lee Jones.
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:02 PM
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surprised that no one has mentioned Juanda or Chan. Juanda got an MBA and supposedly parlayed his early 90's big cash game victories into lots of successful investments insuring he'll never go broke.
Same thing for Chan--investments in businesses, real estate, etc.
Greenstein seems to invest his money well also--real estate

basically, while many of the "top name pros" consistently go broke, these pros have joined the top of the economic bracket through good poker skills and successful investing, and not playing way out of their limits that they can manage financially

Harrington has similar financial/business skills also

if anything, their biggest weakness (and other successful pros) is staking losing players who are their friends

in relation to strictly poker-promotion to the general public and takign advantage of easy opportunities, it's easily Danny N and Hellmuth first, then Lederer (with his commentating, dvds, shows, knob creek, etc.), Esfandieri (or maybe he just hypes himself up)
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:00 PM
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As self-marketing goes, it's a toss-up between Hellmuth, Negreanu and Annie Duke (I'm very surprised she hasn't been mentioned)with honorable mention to Phil Gordon, who's turned zero bracelets into multiple books and one sweet TV gig.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:24 PM
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unrelated, i just googled "knob creek" and the results i got, in order, were

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Welcome To Knob Creek Gun Range! (www.machinegunshoot.com)

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Knob Creek Farms Border Collies

Welcome to Knob Creek
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I took a look at the shooting range one, go to the photo gallery. v funny.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:51 PM
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Poker pro w/ most business savvy

It seems you are talking in the area of "making themselves marketable" and the like, but Todd Brunson has proven to be a good investor. Phil Laak has varied outside interests as well - He once told me he is a slum-lord.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:15 PM
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I would tend to agree. While i respect the accomplishments that both of these players have both inside and outside the poker world, i always find it comical when they houst over who is the "hardest working man in poker" If i could endorse some BS products or get paid stupid sums to do guest appearances, i would do it in a heartbeat. Both these guys are obviously extremely intelligent, although i wouldn't give the "hardest working" title to either of them.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:18 PM
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its pretty hard to tell without knowing how much the players are earning from non-poker activities, or without knowing the fine text and that stuff. negreanu could be very high profile, very popular, and thought of as the top dog but maybe he is botching his negotiations and not taking full advantage of his position. for all i know he could be using his name very inefficiently, i have no reason to say that but its pretty obvious that in a lot of ways he is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:19 PM
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gus hansen has basically flopped with pokerchamps right?
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:22 PM
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gus hansen has basically flopped with pokerchamps right?

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they were recently bought out by Betfair
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