More Tall Tales From the Bush Administration

[MMMMMM]

"The link between Saddam's regime and any terrorist act of the last ten years has yet to be made. Outside of Limbaugh's drug-infested mind."

I guess those tens of thousands of dollars Saddam paid to each Palestinian family who sent a suicide bomber was zero incentive, then, eh? (I know this isn't what you were referring to, but just thought it should be added for the sake of completeness. Hard to imagine that Saddam's payoffs to Palestinian families didn't help sway some would-be, on-the-fence suicide bombers' minds. And this is a clear link to terrorist acts, though not in the sense you were referencing).

[Utah]

Funny how you and you Hezbollah buddies think Bush is a murderer, but the very people that he supposedly murdered have embraced him.

Hmmm....they must really really be stupid. Oh wait, maybe.....just maybe....they understand the price of freedom.

[Utah]

the intellligence agencies of the West were feeding their political superiors with intel that did not show any WMDs whatsoever, there was no reliable and probable evidence of any Iraqi danger for the West's security coming out from anywhere, nobody had anything , except for an orchestrated hysteria over a war that just had to be carried out!

Wow. One would guess with statements like this that you were a member of Bush's inner circle. However, one might also suspect that you are simply pulling info out of your a#$. Or maybe you have been hanging out with Oliver Stone too much.

Just curious, can you define the calculus that determines the threshold? and, if I am not mistaken, did the administration give Saddam several chances to completely avoid the war?

[jokerswild]

There is plenty of evidence that Saddam has connections to terrorist sponsors such as Donald Rumsfeld. If the Shiites win the elections, which the Bush Administration is fighiting hard to suppress, Rumsfeld may well be indicted by Iraq as complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity.

[Taxman]

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the very people that he supposedly murdered have embraced him.


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Yeah, that's why more Americans have died after the war ended than during it (when most of the deaths were from helicopter crashes anyway).

[Taxman]

This information means nothing. There is "evidence," not proof, that weapons were moved at some point in time, though they would have said when if they knew (ie it could have been moved a long time ago if at all). It's also stated to not be "about a large stockpile of weapons." Personally, I wouldn't consider the war justified just because they finally found a whole 2 saren gas rockets in Syria. Every bit of "evidence" found thus far has been little more than a few gas masks and some medical supplies.

[MMMMMM]

Inconclusive is not the same as meaningless.

Syria has been put on notice, too.

[hetron]

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Wow. One would guess with statements like this that you were a member of Bush's inner circle. However, one might also suspect that you are simply pulling info out of your a#$. Or maybe you have been hanging out with Oliver Stone too much.

Just curious, can you define the calculus that determines the threshold? and, if I am not mistaken, did the administration give Saddam several chances to completely avoid the war?


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Why should I have to be a member of Bush's inner circle to get evidence of WMD's before my country invades Iraq? He was going to take his case to the people that Iraq posed an important threat. Bush diverted billions of dollars toward the Iraqi operation, when the resources that went toward Iraq could have surely gone to other areas involved in the fight against terror (like capturing you-know-who still hiding in the mountains of Afghanistan).

Remember, Bush, not the Democrats, not Michael Moore, not Jane Fonda, not Oliver Stone, not Susan Sarandon, or whatever "lefty" bugaboo you want to try to attack, said that we were getting involved in Iraq because of the threat of WMD's and links to Al Qaeda. If you are going to put people's lives on the line for this cause, then you should be forced to back up your claims with facts, or at least reasonable evidence why you think your claims might be true. The Bush administration never met any of this criteria, IMO.

[hetron]

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Funny how you and you Hezbollah buddies think Bush is a murderer, but the very people that he supposedly murdered have embraced him.

Hmmm....they must really really be stupid. Oh wait, maybe.....just maybe....they understand the price of freedom.


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You run off at the mouth a little too much. Who are you to accuse anyone of being a member of Hezbollah? Rambo? GI Joe?

And just because the Iraqis don't like the insane Hussein doesn't mean they are idiots enough to believe that the US invaded them out of the goodness of their hearts. They knew that Bush wanted Saddam out of there and that the US had to help start some sort of democratic government in Iraq or else risk looking like a bunch of jerks in front of the international community. So they aren't exactly "embracing" Bush; they are embracing the opportunity to be rid of a horrible dictator. Don't believe me? Click on this:

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle5050.htm

[Taxman]

Of course it is meaningful, but let's not jump the gun and use it as justification for everything. Like I said even if they found a small amount of weapons, that still doesn't necessarily make an invasion an imperitive step.