The "we saw the same intel" argument put to rest

[Andrew Fletcher]

Despite your handle, you are clearly French. Or at least you are still a commie.

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The vibe from M, Nut, and BCP is that the administration pulled on a sleight of hand in slightly distorting the true intelligence picture, but if the democrats in Congress had investigated adequately then then would have seen through it? The fact the dems were sucessfully mislead because they were too lazy or incompetent still leaves the administration dishonest. How can you guys miss this?

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I've said for a long time that I think the administration employed a bit of "spin" in the selling of the war. However, that is not the same thing as outright lying. Also, the administration genuinely believed that Saddam had WMDs, or at least ongoing WMD programs--as did other major first-world intelligence governments. So it wasn't lying, or just duping the country into war--it was just a bit of spin to help sell something.

What's more, there were plenty of other good reasons for going to war. So I think the chronic brouhaha over this one aspect is, in a way, a bit like making a mountain out of a molehill.

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because they said there were weapons of mass destruction and there weren't any. if that's not lying, the word has no meaning.


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lying clearly has a meaning:

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the deliberate act of deviating from the truth

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Ill ask again, can you read minds?

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I think that M, Nut, and BCP are saying that if Bush says the sky is blue, you'd better get your ass outside and doublecheck.

That's what you guys are saying, right? You're not blaming the Democrats for invading Iraq?

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Speaking only for myself, you're close.

If you want to believe the sky is blue, or you think he's probably right, take his word and stay inside. If you think there's a possibility it might be gray, go outside.

If you learn he was right, you're happy.

If you learn he wasn't, who's to blame?

Sir, I'm full-blooded Russian and not a commie. I'm merely opposed to the tyranical regime of George W. Bush.
Calling me a commie, that's a good one, I love it when Republicans are wrong and have no argument, they resort to name-calling like little school-children. I think your hero Rush's favorite is to call someone a liberal, as if that's necessarily a bad thing.

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Sir, I'm full-blooded Russian and not a commie. I'm merely opposed to the tyranical regime of George W. Bush.
Calling me a commie, that's a good one, I love it when Republicans are wrong and have no argument, they resort to name-calling like little school-children. I think your hero Rush's favorite is to call someone a liberal, as if that's necessarily a bad thing.

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hahahahaa

So, you find the truth funny then, dittohead?

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So, you find the truth funny then, dittohead?

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Keep em coming, this is hilarious!

And you keep believing Bush.

[BCPVP]

WHOOOOSH....