Blind war

[imported_leader]

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I love when they write. 'fu'. It means they're on their way to tilt-land.

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I find people with villain's type stats are very susceptible to tilt. Probably because they think they're so good, but they are always losing.

[deepsquat]

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That was probably the worst river card that could have dropped. And it's not scaring him at all. I think this is a good fold.


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Villain will be betting any and every river after 3betting the turn.

I like this river fold.

Did u consider a pf 3bet?

[istewart]

Can someone please explain why you guys like the fold (and why you think the river card is so bad - bad enough to fold the river - given his relative range of hands)? Most of you seem adamant about it but I'm still not seeing why. I would almost always call here so if this is a mistake I'd obviously like to know [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[deepsquat]

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Can someone please explain why you guys like the fold (and why you think the river card is so bad - bad enough to fold the river - given his relative range of hands)? Most of you seem adamant about it but I'm still not seeing why. I would almost always call here so if this is a mistake I'd obviously like to know [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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although its hard to put villain on a hand, i really cant see what he 3bets the turn with that we beat. Although its hard to fold TP HU to a turn 3bet, its even harder to call this river

[istewart]

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Can someone please explain why you guys like the fold (and why you think the river card is so bad - bad enough to fold the river - given his relative range of hands)? Most of you seem adamant about it but I'm still not seeing why. I would almost always call here so if this is a mistake I'd obviously like to know [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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although its hard to put villain on a hand, i really cant see what he 3bets the turn with that we beat. Although its hard to fold TP HU to a turn 3bet, its even harder to call this river

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I don't get what the ace changes though... I think if he's 3-betting hands that were improved by the ace often enough that we have to fold the river (based on this range alone) then he is 3-betting worse hands on the turn that force us to call as well. Sure it completes two-pair hands, flush draws and QJ but if he has these why can't he have K8 or QT?

[deepsquat]

I agree 100%.

A turn fold is prob better than a river fold but that river card is the worst card in the deck probably for hero at makes our unattractive hand look that bit more unattractive.

This hand is just messy by nature. How would u play it?

[istewart]

Probably would've played it pretty much the same (though raising the flop a good % of the time too) except I would've called the river.