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Old 05-12-2005, 04:39 PM
BIGRED BIGRED is offline
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Default Is this why I\'m a mediocre 5/10 SH player?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (2 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

I will post the result in a separate post.

What do you guys think about the turn raise? I felt good about my hand when I didn't get re-raised.

But the reason why I am making this post is because of the following what if scenario. What if he re-raised me on the turn... You see, I would've called the re-raise and probably called on the river including a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] river card.

I do this (meaning calling down on a re-raise) almost always head-ups regardless of reads. Is this what makes me a mediocre and even perhaps a bad 5/10 SH player?

For what it's worth my WR is around 1.2BB/100.
If I included the recent down turn, I'm probably not even a 1BB/100 player.
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default RESULT

He had 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BTW, how do you include the results in white?
I know you use the font color, but for some reason when I do it, it shows up like this

<font color="white">He had 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font>
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: RESULT

Don't post results right away. They are usually irrelevent anyways. Even when in a new post, people who use flat mode can't help seeing them right away.
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: RESULT

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He had 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BTW, how do you include the results in white?
I know you use the font color, but for some reason when I do it, it shows up like this

<font color="white">He had 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

The hand converter doesn't use the suit images when it posts the results. Just do like '5s 8c' in white.
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:12 PM
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Don't post results (in white or otherwise) until all meaningful discussion has finished - they are not relevant and only serve to bias the advice you get.

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Old 05-12-2005, 04:46 PM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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Default Re: Is this why I\'m a mediocre 5/10 SH player?

I'd raise the flop. I don't mind getting 3bet on the flop but I hate getting 3bet on the turn.
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Is this why I\'m a mediocre 5/10 SH player?

You need to protect this hand, you have TPBK and there are a lot of cards that can hurt you. I raise the flop and bet the turn
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Is this why I\'m a mediocre 5/10 SH player?

If there was a third person after me, I would've definitely raised to protect my hand. Heads up, however, I find that most will call the raise and I won't be able to protect.
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:13 PM
WarmonkEd WarmonkEd is offline
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Default Re: Is this why I\'m a mediocre 5/10 SH player?

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If there was a third person after me, I would've definitely raised to protect my hand. Heads up, however, I find that most will call the raise and I won't be able to protect.

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I think you played it alright. I agree raising the flop does nothing to protect your hand, because no one will fold for 1 SB.

edit: I suppose the merit of raising the flop is that it might get him to fold for 1 BB on the turn or allow you to get a free card.

Dane makes a good point about letting him bluff the turn and river. I think the decision to raise or let him bluff is very dependent on your read of the opponent.
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Is this why I\'m a mediocre 5/10 SH player?

With regard to raising the flop and/or turn, the question is not just whether it protects his hand, but whether he's ahead. If you assume the villain will call with a worse hand, then why not raise?

Having said that, I see value to waiting till the river to raise. I think that depends on the opponent.

Now as to the question "what if raised on turn," I fold. But that's because I'm playing 2/4 and 3/6. At those limits, I am convinced the turn raise is so rarely a bluff that it is hardly worth considering. Might be entirely different at 5/10.
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