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Old 12-04-2005, 05:33 AM
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Id feel guilty for missing value bets against them
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:06 AM
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I have no problem taking money from LAGS or TAGS. They're trying to do the same to me and I would love nothing more than to punk them as hard as possible. But when I play against the really loose passives, sometimes I feel bad about taking their money. They're just so over matched. They have no chance against me at all unless the deck just completely screws me. It almost feels like robbery.

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Seems like evidence that you haven't been on a horrendous streak yet. When you go through that, your view will change on this.

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They have no chance against me at all unless the deck just completely screws me.

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Is just moronic. You can easily be the best player on the table and get your asshanders award for a few sessions.

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Old 12-04-2005, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: Anyone else feel guilty taking loose passive\'s money?

Hi Jinx,

I'll go against the grain and say that I sometimes feel this way too. It doesn't affect my behavior, though. I don't feel bad for them and fail to value bet. I continue to value bet and sometimes feel a little bit bad about it.
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:27 AM
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Bernie is right on the money.

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You can easily be the best player on the table and get your asshanders award for a few sessions.


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And when it happens, and yes, it will happen, your view changes dramatically.

Onaflag...........
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:00 AM
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Guessing from what I've seen on SSSH, I think Jinx has played a lot of shorthanded and is probably very familiar with downswings. I think you guys are focusing on the wrong issue. He's probably talking about a player who limps along with 90% of his hands, and check-calls down Q high. The kind that you wonder if he even knows the rules of poker.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:16 AM
AlanBostick AlanBostick is offline
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Default Re: Anyone else feel guilty taking loose passive\'s money?

There's no doubt about it: to be a winning player at cash games, it is necessary to be a predator. Loose-passive players are our prey. They are what keep the games going.

If you can't come to terms with being a predator, then don't play cash games. Stick to tournaments.

Some people come to terms with being a predator through denial or something like it. ("I'm not taking their money; they are giving it to me!") Others simply ignore the prickings of their consciences.

Personally, I believe that the very best hunters have empathy and understanding for those whom they hunt.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:50 AM
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That's what makes you and I different, if they're willing to give it up, I'm willing to take it. Hell, I have a family to take care of. I guess I just possess a certain, "moral flexibility."
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: Anyone else feel guilty taking loose passive\'s money?

watch the color of money, the scene where cruise is dumping games to someone else.
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:06 AM
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I would check raise my grandmother for the last of her social security check

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awesome, i couldn't have said it better myself

if anything, you are doing them a service...if they are smart, they will feel the sting soon enough and either wise up and win or not risk money they can't afford to be losing
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Anyone else feel guilty taking loose passive\'s money?

A drugdealer can say " if i dont sell drugs other people do it ", " they want the drugs, so i do it ". In fact poker is a "ugly" business, i say myself everytime "they want MY MONEY and i have to protect it". I am sure that many people have heavy problems with addicted onlinegambling, and sure we are a bit guilty........but Party and co are more guilty.
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