(11) flopped set on drawish board

ArchonsEngine · #1 12-07-2005, 01:20 AM

This is the first hand I've played and about the 5th hand overall. The only "useful" info is that BB has opened with a minbet on the flop every hand he's played.

I hit my set, but the board's a bit scarier than I'd like. What's my line here? What do I do if a scare card (club, 3, or 7) comes? I'll add more of the hand after seeing what people have to say.

Any advice would be appreciated.

--ArchonsEngine

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t805)
BB (t445)
UTG+1 (t730)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t725)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero calls t15, 1 fold, MP2 calls t15, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t72.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets t15, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero ?????

pergesu · #2 12-07-2005, 01:28 AM

Jack it up pimp daddy. Make those sucks PAY ya heard

ArchonsEngine · #3 12-07-2005, 01:32 AM

I figured I should raise, but how much? Also, what's my response to a big reraise?

--ArchonsEngine

pergesu · #4 12-07-2005, 01:34 AM

I'd make it 120 and then shove over a reraise. If he has 32, 73, or 87 so be it. At an 11 you have to be happy to get your money in with a set on a draw-heavy board. Plus even if you are behind to a lame hand, you can fill up and pwn. That's what I would do, at least.

mlagoo · #5 12-07-2005, 01:39 AM

i'd raise to about 100, and push over any reraise. i could get cheeky and call the flop and try to get all the chips in on the turn, but, meh. charge em while they're willing to pay.

ArchonsEngine · #6 12-07-2005, 01:44 AM

Okay, I can see that. I raised a little smaller hoping not to scare everyone away.

My thoughts on the rest of the hand are in blue. Does that look reasonable, or should I have been less scared of the draws?

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero calls t15, 1 fold, MP2 calls t15, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t72.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets t15, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero raises to t80, MP2 folds, SB calls t80, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t262.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Well, that blows. I need to find out where I am though, plus I can't let him draw for free in case he's got a single club or a straight draw, so a I'll bet a bit more than 1/2 pot. I really don't know what to do if he pushes, though.

SB checks, Hero bets t150, SB calls t150.

Okay, he's either got a made hand weaker than mine (or a very unlikely 66) or he's still drawing. Check behind on a scare card, bet a brick.

River: (t562.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Well, the other draw got there, so let's take the free showdown.

SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t562.50

mlagoo · #7 12-07-2005, 01:48 AM

i would also bet a bit more on the turn. i'm also checking through this river.

tewall · #8 12-07-2005, 01:50 AM

Raising the pot is rarely bad. That's a good place to start if you don't know how much to raise.

You're very happy to get all-in on the flop. Most of the time, someone will be pushing a draw. You have a decent chance of improving even if you're behind (a about 1 in 3).

ArchonsEngine · #9 12-07-2005, 01:56 AM

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i would also bet a bit more on the turn.

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I'm guessing if he pushes in response, I should just whine about it and call, right?

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i'm also checking through this river.

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Yeah, that's about the only part of the postflop I'm comfortable with. I just felt a bit lost on this one.

mlagoo · #10 12-07-2005, 02:04 AM

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i would also bet a bit more on the turn.

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I'm guessing if he pushes in response, I should just whine about it and call, right?

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i think so, because of the chances he could be on a pair and a flush draw, two pair, etc., and because in the event that he does have a made hand, you've still got 10 outs to improve. i mean, this is all just rehashing basic stuff. i can see why you dont like the situation.