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Old 03-30-2005, 07:05 PM
fsuplayer fsuplayer is offline
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Default Re: Deep Stacks: Got CR\'d w Btm Set

turnip, bunky and a couple of others pretty much hit the nail on the head.

this turn card looks awful at first, but once this straight forward playing guy checks, its pretty clear he doesnt have a hand.

I bet $275 for a couple of reasons.

1. I can take a free showdown when I want to if he calls.

2. its really easy to fold to a big CR on that turn.

3. I would hate to give a free card to 109 here, which could boat him up, or possibly give a flush to 109d.

4. the chances of a 20/5 player going for the double CR, are very low.

5. lastly, there is a chance, however small that he folds 99 on this turn. as it appears to him that he may only be ahead of 44 here.
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Old 03-30-2005, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: Deep Stacks: Got CR\'d w Btm Set

turn: bet $300. If called, slowwwwwwwwww down. If raised, fold.

river (assuming he calls your turn bet):
if he calls your turn bet, he's either got a flush or a higher set. so your decision is fairly simple. Unless the river fills you up, you are check folding.
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Old 03-30-2005, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Deep Stacks: Got CR\'d w Btm Set

Greg - nice post.
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Old 03-30-2005, 10:08 PM
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Default Bunky rules.

This is why I love 2+2. Great analysis, and explanation.
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Old 03-30-2005, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: Deep Stacks: Got CR\'d w Btm Set

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turnip, bunky and a couple of others pretty much hit the nail on the head.

this turn card looks awful at first, but once this straight forward playing guy checks, its pretty clear he doesnt have a hand.

I bet $275 for a couple of reasons.

1. I can take a free showdown when I want to if he calls.

2. its really easy to fold to a big CR on that turn.

3. I would hate to give a free card to 109 here, which could boat him up, or possibly give a flush to 109d.

4. the chances of a 20/5 player going for the double CR, are very low.

5. lastly, there is a chance, however small that he folds 99 on this turn. as it appears to him that he may only be ahead of 44 here.

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The power of position in NL is a wonderful thing. The players who know how to use it properly make a ton of Money. Nice bet Mike.
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Bunky rules.

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This is why I love 2+2. Great analysis, and explanation.

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Thank you very much for the kind words. It's appreciated.
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Old 03-31-2005, 01:51 AM
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reraising the flop here is like 3 betting KK against a decent player. he folds everything you beat, and raises everything you lose to.

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Not true at all...overpairs and two pair are not beating you and those are certainly hands that i would checkraise with.
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Old 03-31-2005, 02:08 AM
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yes i forgot to include that. he is a 20/5, which means a little too tight, and too passive pf. cant remember his agg. #'s though.

he's a reg. and I have play a bunch of hands with him, but i dont remember him, so he flys low and doesnt play bad, or aggressive that i have seen.

edit: flop agg. = 2 ish, which is normal i think.

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Was it HotNix? He is the only regular I know with a 5 for pf raise.

if it was him, his check raises are always really strong, so i would just call.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Deep Stacks: Got CR\'d w Btm Set

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reraising the flop here is like 3 betting KK against a decent player. he folds everything you beat, and raises everything you lose to.

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Not true at all...overpairs and two pair are not beating you and those are certainly hands that i would checkraise with.

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dude, reread my post.

i said that reraising would let him get away from everything that i am beating.

not that he wont CR any hands i can beat.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:16 AM
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yes i forgot to include that. he is a 20/5, which means a little too tight, and too passive pf. cant remember his agg. #'s though.

he's a reg. and I have play a bunch of hands with him, but i dont remember him, so he flys low and doesnt play bad, or aggressive that i have seen.

edit: flop agg. = 2 ish, which is normal i think.

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Was it HotNix? He is the only regular I know with a 5 for pf raise.

if it was him, his check raises are always really strong, so i would just call.

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no it wasnt him, it was whererugng.
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