NO and Iraq

[Broken Glass Can]

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if historians ever decided to study what they would refer to as Broken Glass Can's "Body of Work"

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What makes you think that this is not already happening?

[Stu Pidasso]

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So Clinton destroyed 1/10 of the military and intelligence agencies and Bush screwed up Iraq. Sounds about right to me.

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Actually 1/3 would be more accurate than 1/10th.

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And what's this post Saddam Iraq thing? What did he do pre- and during the war that wasn't screwed up (apart from having the most sophisticated military force in the world win against a poor and unresourced country?)

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Well Bush did screw up on the wmd issue. I have always maintained(even before the invasion) that wmd was just an excuse and we were going to Iraq for other reasons. However it did cost Bush a ton of credibility because we couldn't find any significant wmd. Thats a pretty major error.

The invasion itself seemed pretty successful to me. Something military leaders around the world are going to study anyways.

I think most of the blame for 911 falls on Clinton. He pretty much did nothing significant about Al Queda even though the were bombing our embassys and blowing holes in our ships.

Face it, we have crappy leaders be them republican or democrat(although the democrats tend to be slightly worse imo).

Stu

[cadillac1234]

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This was true during the Clinton when the military was cut deeply. We can't turn around such reductions as quickly as we'd like.

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I believe Rumsfeild said he didn't want to increase the size of the US military only change its structure.

Stu

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Rummy also said in 2003 he could wage a 3 front war without conscription based on his current troop levels.