MLHE advise for 20/40 - crap?

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A five-handed $20-$40 game. A good player opens with a raise under-the-gun. You are in the small blind with the K-Q and everyone folds to you. What do you do?

I'll post the books advise after some of you have responded. I don't play high stakes but I would be shocked if you answer the way the book does.

I think it's an easy raise 5-handed.

[Grisgra]

I raise, then lose.

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I raise, then lose.

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I think it's a raise or fold situation depending on the player raising UTG. I think calling sucks though why give the BB 5:1 to see a flop?

Here is the book's advise:

Call. In a full game, when a good player opens with a raise in early position, you should fold king-queen offsuit unless you are in the big blind. The reason is because the good player rates to have A-A, K-K, Q-Q, J-J, A-K, or A-Q, and many of these hands dominate yours. But in a five-handed game, a good player will raise on a much wider range of hands like pocket eights, sevens, and sixes, as well as ace-jack, ace-ten, ace-nine suited, king-jack, queen-jack suited, and so forth. Your hand is worth a play, especially since you are already partially in. We would also cold-call a raise on the button having to put in the full amount.

[Grisgra]

I'd generally raise, but the book's advice isn't horrible, KQ is a nice hand that may dominate many hands the BB calls with. Calling here isn't obviously wrong.

[kiddo]

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I'd generally raise, but the book's advice isn't horrible, KQ is a nice hand that may dominate many hands the BB calls with. Calling here isn't obviously wrong.

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Agree, if raiser is tricky it can sometimes be better to have a predictable blind in to protect u against the ugliest tricks.

The problem is more that if our only read is "a good player" we should think about getting a better read or leave the table.

[Jeff W]

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Agree, if raiser is tricky it can sometimes be better to have a predictable blind in to protect u against the ugliest tricks.

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Your logic is sound, but I suspect the hidden benefit of getting it HU and splitting the dead money 2 ways instead of 3 almost always overwhelms post flop considerations.

[TomBrooks]

I voted call and was going to post it before I read the thread. But I'm not worthy of posting in this forum. There are too many poker geniuses in here that can't even tolerate seeing my inferior suggestions. So I figured instead of having to hear more bull crap from the know-it-alls in case I posted what I thought and it was wrong, I'd vote anonymously and then check the answer.

Since I got it right, I guess I won't have to put up with any grief for the moment. Perhaps for just this one thread, I will be given dispensation to post without being personally attacked.

I realize the fact that I knew the correct answer and 79% of the respondents got it wrong (64 votes at the time of this post) is probably just another stroke of luck for me.

Just like I realize the fact that noone from the AggroDonkey Club accepted my recent challenge to take any group of hand posts and compare our suggestions with the results to see who would have won or lost the most is not because anyone was worried I would embarress them by winning. It was because they can't be bothered wasting their time with such an unknowledgable person as myself. Yea, that's the ticket.

Haha. Next.

[wheelz]

even if your "challenge" proved that your lines lost less in the hands you chose, that doesn't mean the line you chose was the right play over the long run. i can't believe i have to explain that to someone with as many posts as you have, but there you go, your challenge is pointless. we don't post here for competition, most people just care about learning how to play poker. just let it go man, you're not impressing anyone. i assure you no one here is afraid of losing to you in a poker smarts challenge.

[TomBrooks]

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we don't post here for competition, most people just care about learning how to play poker.

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Well what do you know? Thats what I want. And thats what I thought these forums were all about. Unfortunately, some of your buddies seem to have lost sight of that.

Why don't you take our message to them? Tell them to get off my back. Remind them that this is an open forum. Suggest to them that when they disagree with someones idea they criticise or refute it in a kind and respectful manner. Suggest to them that they try to avoid embarrasing and/or insulting people. And you might want to give them a clue that condensending suggestions that someone just go away doesn't exactly fit the bill either. Maybe ask them to imagine, just pretend, that when they respond to someone they are responding to a person, to a human being. Take that message back to your tribe and let me know what they say.