Risk that poker site employees could be arrested at the WSOP?

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Even if they had this intention, US Law Enforcement officers on any level would have no jurisdiction to make such an arrest. They operate those sites in an area where it is legal to do so.

A similar situation. A guy from NY goes to Vegas and visits the Bunny Ranch where he bangs a prostitute. Now when he returns home does an NYPD officer have the right to arrest him since prostitution is illegal in NY??? Definitely not, although his wife might blow his balls off with a shotgun.

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Read the whole thread before you post. It is illegal to place bets FROM WITHIN any state (other than KY or the D.C.). Your bets ORIGINATE from yourself who is located within a U.S. state (assuming you live in the U.S. and not Ky or the D.C.).

My intention on posting the previous link was to show people here that THERE IS A NEED TO TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTION. Between this act of the WPT (America's BEST known poker company) and the article from Granny, we ought to have some concern here (not for prosecution, necessarily; but because this is OUR game/living -- why let it go to crap?).

[DanS]

The good people of Full Tilt, who rented a room just outside of the convention hall where the WSOP is being played, didn't seem too concerned about LV Metro interrupting their little party. But maybe that's just me.

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If Party Gaming, etc., whatver were to take charge of this and loby for it the powers that be in the US Gov't can easily argue "internet gambling is bad, here's xyz examples of people who went broke and in debt because of big bad party poker, et al... now they are tying to make it legal... they are getting rich putting our citizens in debt, it's exploitation"

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A simple/reasonable rebuttle would be to point out the Fed. Gov.'s hypocrisy in those statements with Casinos, Horce/Dog racing, off-track betting parlors, lotteries, scratch tickets, etc. They may bring up gambling's addictive potential (which I disagree with). Rebuttal: alcohol, tobacco (esp. cigarettes). Yet they have done VERY little to put a stop to these addictive and life-threatening substances (other than tax the crap out of tobacco companies).

Here's what I'm really fearing/thinking: Although there are probably MANY issues, the U.S. may be against iPoker MOSTLY due to the fact that it is not receiving tax revenue from these companies. If they were, it'd be a different story. Thus my theory of an ideal involvement in this effort from iPoker companies.

Starting place: identify potential allies w/in congress (?).

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We both seem to agree that there needs to be an organized effort. This takes leadership.

What is an online poker sites incentive to make internet gambling in the US legal? They are getting paid good money regardless.

I think it takes people in the know to hash out the issues, competing interests, etc. I personally don't care if it is legal or illegal as long as I continue to have access to it and continue to make money off of it. I know Roy Cooke asked Doyle to take some sort of leadership role in legitimizing poker but the dude is like 75yrs old or something. Is he really going to take a leadership role in a huge project like this? He's making enough money elsewhere. So is party et al.

I guess it isn't important enough or profitable enough for someone to invest their time and effort into.

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A Federal Bill that would make iPoker illegal made it through the House and fell in the Senate. Live for the moment, or work towards the future. Party et al WILL NOT be making much money when their PRIMARY customer base loses access/becomes a target for prosecution.

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Interesting, I didn't know this. Any details? I would have thought they would have been all over this with top Wash lobbyist talent, several favorite senators and a proper submissive-but-insistent-on-their-rights type attitude. It's too bad if they're making things worse by not playing the game.


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An international, non-US gambling company using money to do this would be ridiculously illegal and unethical (for washington pols to accept any such money), even by Washington standards.

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Interesting, I didn't know this. Any details? I would have thought they would have been all over this with top Wash lobbyist talent, several favorite senators and a proper submissive-but-insistent-on-their-rights type attitude. It's too bad if they're making things worse by not playing the game.


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An international, non-US gambling company using money to do this would be ridiculously illegal and unethical (for washington pols to accept any such money), even by Washington standards.

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Unless it was accomplished via the WTO, no?

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Interesting, I didn't know this. Any details? I would have thought they would have been all over this with top Wash lobbyist talent, several favorite senators and a proper submissive-but-insistent-on-their-rights type attitude. It's too bad if they're making things worse by not playing the game.


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An international, non-US gambling company using money to do this would be ridiculously illegal and unethical (for washington pols to accept any such money), even by Washington standards.

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Illegal, I dont't think so, given that we allow adversarial foreign governments to hire lobbyists (China, Libya, back in the day). In fact, didn't Iraq have several back during during the first war, maybe during the 2nd too?

Unethical, sure, but that's redundant. Unethical lobbyist, freezing ice, hot fire, whatever.

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What would they charge them with? Operating a poker site from a jursidiction where it is perfectly legal?

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If Columbia "legalized" narcotics, think we could get by with that? In Alaska you can grow your own weed for personal use too, but not here. And if hookers are "legal" in Nevada, whay can't I go get a "date" down on the corner in other States? Hmmmmm...