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Old 10-02-2005, 08:35 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

6 handed 5/10 nl
my hand: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

folded to me on button (1475), SB folds BB calls (covers)

flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot: 75)
SB checks, Hero bets 75, SB makes it 200 all day, I make it 500 all day, SB calls

turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 1075)
SB checks, Hero goes allin for 930

Anyone? Only street I'm confident of is preflop.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

Uh.. what's the problem? Can't check behind on that turn, so what if he has KQ.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

lookin' good in the neighborhood
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:45 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

well what range of hands calls turn push that I'm ahead of? Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here?
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

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Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here?

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WTF?

I would either just call his raise on the flop, or more likely, stick it all in.
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:31 AM
LuvDemNutz LuvDemNutz is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

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well what range of hands calls turn push that I'm ahead of? Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here?

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Eh, this is results oriented thinging IMO.

If you check behnind on the turn are you folding to a push on any card?

Doubt it.
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

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If you check behnind on the turn are you folding to a push on any card?

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not a jack!!!111

but I think it might be more profitable to call a river push than to push turn myself...another issue is if the flush card comes on river, you could easily be faced with a blocking bet instead of an allin. However, I'm not sure if this is still results-oriented thinking or not
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:55 PM
Rocaix Rocaix is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

In a vaccum this looks fine to me, he probably has a smaller set, JT, or maybe an Overpair on the flop. A mediocre draw probably folds to a flop 3-bet, and big draws probably just sticks it all-in.

An alternative higher variance line (if you don't 3-bet the flop very often)would be to just call the check-raise and push over the top on the turn. This squeezes a little extra value out of him if he decided to get frisky with a draw on the flop and will follow through on the turn when he misses. But of course any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],7,9,orA will make you a bit uncomfortable on the turn.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

your 3bet size on the flop screams a monster, moving in is muchhhhhhhhhhhhh better here.

and hey, it solves the whole sticky turn problem as well.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ

i like it.... the NL section of 2+2 is the land of "Overbet Pot Lovers"... i hate almost all over pot bets, i doubt he's calling your raise with kq unless it's the k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

if he had that draw though, i believe you would have heard back from him on flop, or you would have if it were me.. most of time.
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