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#71
12-13-2005, 11:26 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Alright, now that you've completely evaded my question, how about you just answer what I asked you. Why do you care whether or not Stan Williams was put to death? [/ QUOTE ] I believe in vengeance. The victim's families wanted him put to death and that is all that matters. They are the only ones with any say in this matter. If someone kills someone you love and you want them spared then that is your choice. Don't question the victim's families right to think otherwise. [/ QUOTE ] If we start doling out punishment in order to placate the emotions of a handful of people, we as a society are in deep doo doo. [/ QUOTE ] What he said. Cody 
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#72
12-13-2005, 11:28 AM
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Re: DON\'T KILL TOOKIE
Easy answer: Life with no possibility of parole.
He's off the streets and working to right his wrongs (as much as possible). As for the monatary cost, well that's expalined (in detail) in my lower post. Cody
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#73
12-13-2005, 11:48 AM
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So you're saying that the victim's families AREN'T the only ones who have a say in the matter. So what is keeping other outside influences from determining that he would be more useful alive than dead? [/ QUOTE ] The families should decide whether he lives or dies not the method of death.
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#74
12-13-2005, 12:00 PM
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The families should decide whether he lives or dies [/ QUOTE ] No they shouldn't.
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#75
12-13-2005, 12:29 PM
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[ QUOTE ] The families should decide whether he lives or dies [/ QUOTE ] No they shouldn't. [/ QUOTE ] You are entitled to your opinion - fortunately it does not hold any weight in a court of law. The families do - during the sentencing phase.
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#76
12-13-2005, 12:45 PM
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Re: DON\'T KILL TOOKIE
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[ QUOTE ] So you're saying that the victim's families AREN'T the only ones who have a say in the matter. So what is keeping other outside influences from determining that he would be more useful alive than dead? [/ QUOTE ] The families should decide whether he lives or dies not the method of death. [/ QUOTE ] That's how they do it in Saudi Arabia. It's nice to see that the US justice systme has decided to emulate the progressive system of their Saudi friends. The US still hasn't moved to the point of public beheadings, but it's really just a matter of time.
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#77
12-13-2005, 12:54 PM
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Re: DON\'T KILL TOOKIE
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So you're saying that the victim's families AREN'T the only ones who have a say in the matter. So what is keeping other outside influences from determining that he would be more useful alive than dead? [/ QUOTE ] The families should decide whether he lives or dies not the method of death. [/ QUOTE ] That's how they do it in Saudi Arabia. It's nice to see that the US justice systme has decided to emulate the progressive system of their Saudi friends. The US still hasn't moved to the point of public beheadings, but it's really just a matter of time. [/ QUOTE ] To be honest - I would have no problem with that.
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#78
12-13-2005, 01:11 PM
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The families do - during the sentencing phase. [/ QUOTE ] No, they don't. They have a voice in the sentencing phase, but if you believe the family decides whether he gets the death penalty or not, you are absolutely incorrect.
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#79
12-13-2005, 01:19 PM
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[ QUOTE ] The families do - during the sentencing phase. [/ QUOTE ] No, they don't. They have a voice in the sentencing phase, but if you believe the family decides whether he gets the death penalty or not, you are absolutely incorrect. [/ QUOTE ] Go back and read this part of the thread from the beginning - you are now taking the statement out of context.
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#80
12-13-2005, 01:19 PM
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[ QUOTE ] The families do - during the sentencing phase. [/ QUOTE ] No, they don't. They have a voice in the sentencing phase, but if you believe the family decides whether he gets the death penalty or not, you are absolutely incorrect. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, the family gets to say their piece during the sentencing phase, but they don't decide on the sentence. The more grief-stricken they appear, the more likely it is for the jury to sentence to impose the death penalty. So, if you're a convicted murderer and your victim's family has an attractive young blond girl who cries easily, you're pretty much toast. In Saudi Arabia, they let the family decide on the death penalty. What usually ends up happening is it comes down to whether the victim's family is willing to cough up enough $$$ to give to the victim's family to save the condemned man's life. If your family is poor, you're done for. Actually, come to think of it, that's pretty much how things work in the US too.
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