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Old 11-16-2005, 05:25 PM
Rotterdaum Rotterdaum is offline
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Default Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

I'm not sure about my action in this situation, and I run into it several times daily.

For simplicity, you're sitting on 100 in 100 NL and villain in BB has 50.

The preflop action is not as common in full ring, but usual in 6-max.

You raise to $4 from Button/CO holding 55
SB/BB makes it $10.

Do you always fold here? Ever?

6 more to call into a stack of $40.

Folding seems bad for image. Calling seems just -EV(but very small). Disgusting situation
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

call for set value
if you miss, fold to a bet or check behind (based on reads, because you COULD fire at the pot)
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

I'd say that it depends on your image and BB's playing style, but I'll make the call here sometimes if I think that he'll tilt and rebuy if I bust him with a set.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

Let it go, he doesn't have enough money to make it worth your while.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

Main problem with folding from my perspective is that it may ruin your stealing power in the future. That consequence is not very important?
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

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Main problem with folding from my perspective is that it may ruin your stealing power in the future. That consequence is not very important?

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how observant is the usual 100NL player?
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

You're getting 9:1 on a call (14 dead + his 40 behind : 6 to call), which is pretty close to the 5/10 rule. I'd probably call unless you know he can get easily get away from overpairs when you flop a set.
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

Indeed
1:10 or better would fall under the 5/10 rule [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Isn't the rule "if it's less than 5% of effective stacks, call, if it's more than 10, FOLD, and use your judgement inbetween" for a reason? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

If you don't think your "stealing power" is makes up for how close this is, then fold.

Strictly speaking, you quoted the rule correctly, but I don't believe this situation is specifically addressed by it. For example, if you had $100 stacks, you raised $5 to $6, and someone min-raised, you'd be $11 into the pot, which is greater than 10% of effective stacks. You'd still call with a pair hoping to flop a set because you're getting much better than 10:1 implied odds on your call.

I think the rule is meant to be interpreted as it applies to the odds you're getting on your call.
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: Small pair gets reraised preflop by short stack

Dont see how you can fold this. Is he the type who never reraise with high cards?
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