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Old 11-19-2005, 02:14 AM
Guernica4000 Guernica4000 is offline
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Default Re: Its not about odds.

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Edit: This manily applies to tournament play.

Poker is not about odds. People who play odds get burned all the time, especially online . Knowing odds should be a tool in your arsenal but shouldn't be the main weapon.

How many times do you see omeone go out online and they type obsenities and stuff and say "I had 4:1 or 3:1 pot odds!" Like they should win 100% of the time with those odds.

Well here are my keys to being succesful online.

1.) Keep the pot small. No limit games can get out of hand very fast. For example, if you flop high pair but the board is full of draws, and you want to drive your oponent out of the hand, a lot of people move all in, or bet half there stack to get someone to fold. This is not a wise choice, you are making the pot large unnessiasrily. A lot of times a 150 chip bet will get a guy to fold, just as well as a 500 chip bet, the difference is that the 1/10 chance that he calls you and wins means you lost that many more chips.

Another thing, if your trying at a bluff, try not to go all in with it. Think about how cheaply you can bluff and still get the player to fold.

Lastly, think about getting slowplayed. If you flop middle pair an he checks to you, keep the pot small to avoid getting duped by a slowplay. Check, or raise a small ammount.

2.) Avoid pre flop play at all costs. You main goal, should be to see the flop as cheaply as possible with the least ammount of people as possible. Sometimes this requires a raise, and sometimes it requires a limp, even with a good hand.
I always like to see a flop with at least 2 other people, because that maximizes my chance of hitting something, while others hit something as well.

If you have a good starting hand, of course you want to bet preflop, but you want to do so with caution. Remeber, in holdem, before the flop, your only seeing 2/7 cards. You still have 5 cards left to see. Anyone who is agressivley betting preflop will get burned, even if the "odds" are in your favor.

Avoid all ins preflop like the plaugue. I see it all the time on tv now, and its just the stupiedest play immaginanble with a game like holdem. People think the key to winning holdem is going all in preflop with the best hand, and hoping to double up. That is the dumbest idea ever. What you want to do is trap your oponents, when you have a nut hand you want to maximize profit. Over the long run, this will be the best bet.

3.) Your preflop hand means nothing. get that through your head. Your seeing 2/7 cards, and if you want to take risks preflop, your not going to be succesful in the long run.

Now, about odds:

I will often fold TT - QQ preflop is someone is agresivly betting. The theory here is that I will wait until its cheap for me to enter and out play after the flop, rather than making a risk by putting up a lot of my stack pre flop when any ace hand or king hand can take me out.

The key to holdem is controlling the pot size. Maximizing profit with nut hands. Avoiding stupid risks. And not relying on odds all the time.

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Last I checked AA vs. TT is a 4-1 favorite on-line or in a B&M.

Your post is just ridicules.
Let me ask you something. Let's say you have AA and the flop is T92 with two of the cards suited. By betting a small amount you are making it correct for a player or players to call on a straight or flush draw so do you just fold if a third suited card hits? Or say a J or 8?

By not making a big enough bet you will get outdrawn by players that understand pot odds.

By the way I seriously doubt you are successful playing with this strategy on-line or live.
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