25NL AA SB, overplayed again?

PinkSteel · #1 11-11-2005, 08:20 AM

Villain was 44/19/2.0 over 86 hands. Seemed fishy. On one hand saw him min-raise A9o from SB after BTN limped, so I thought definitely not a *good* LAG.

But on this hand I wasn't sure if he had something up his sleeve or was just calling down. Could I, should I have slowed this down, and where? All comments appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($38.35)
UTG ($68.47)
UTG+1 ($23.80)
MP1 ($24.20)
MP2 ($41.19)
MP3 ($36.87)
CO ($43.44)
Button ($4.40)
Hero ($56.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 3 folds, CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $4, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $3, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($12.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $9.
Have to lead out here...

Turn: ($30.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO calls $15.
If I check here, he's going to represent the flush whether he's got it or not....

River: ($60.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $15
 At this point, he's only got about $15 left, so the rest is going in anyway....

#2 11-11-2005, 08:35 AM

I think u over bet the flop just a little but other then that it looks good.

jacknine · #3 11-11-2005, 08:40 AM

Overbet the flop? With two opponents in the hand and two hearts on the board, wouldn't you want to bet the pot?

I'd personally bet over the size of the bot, around $15, wanting to take it down right there. But mind you, I am rubbish at pot control...

4_2_it · #4 11-11-2005, 09:52 AM

Tough spot. I think continuing to lead out is fine. I like a c/c on the river, but don't mind the bet since you are going to have to make the crying call anyway.

Very odd that he didn't push the turn with his short stack [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I guess some of these NL $25 players are 'tricky' [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Did he have the flush or QQ?

Godfather80 · #5 11-11-2005, 10:00 AM

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Villain was 44/19/2.0 over 86 hands. Seemed fishy. On one hand saw him min-raise A9o from SB after BTN limped, so I thought definitely not a *good* LAG.

But on this hand I wasn't sure if he had something up his sleeve or was just calling down. Could I, should I have slowed this down, and where? All comments appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($38.35)
UTG ($68.47)
UTG+1 ($23.80)
MP1 ($24.20)
MP2 ($41.19)
MP3 ($36.87)
CO ($43.44)
Button ($4.40)
Hero ($56.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 3 folds, CO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $4, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $3, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($12.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $9.
Have to lead out here...

Turn: ($30.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO calls $15.
If I check here, he's going to represent the flush whether he's got it or not....

River: ($60.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $15
 At this point, he's only got about $15 left, so the rest is going in anyway....

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Check/call the river. Villain won't fold a 2pair or better, but he might fold something that he would take a swipe at if you had checked to him. Other than that, you played it great. That turn spot is the hardest in poker to be OOP.

PinkSteel · #6 11-11-2005, 10:19 AM

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Did he have the flush or QQ?

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He mucked his AQo, MHIG. (Not that the results matter. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

As soon as he flat called the flop bet I did actually think, good, he paired a Q. It also occurred to me he might call down w/ KK, but I kind of would have expected him to push KK preflop.

So the "what I'm beating" range, even against a loose caller, was pretty thin by the end, but I didn't see another clearly better line to take.

Godfather80 · #7 11-11-2005, 10:21 AM

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Did he have the flush or QQ?

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He mucked his AQo, MHIG. (Not that the results matter. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])

As soon as he flat called the flop bet I did actually think, good, he paired a Q. It also occurred to me he might call down w/ KK, but I kind of would have expected him to push KK preflop.

So the "what I'm beating" range, even against a loose caller, was pretty thin by the end, but I didn't see another clearly better line to take.

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This is one of the hands that, I think, may have bet the river if you checked. Just watching out for your bottom line.

#8 11-11-2005, 10:26 AM

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If I check here, he's going to represent the flush whether he's got it or not....

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So why not checkraise all in?

Godfather80 · #9 11-11-2005, 10:29 AM

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If I check here, he's going to represent the flush whether he's got it or not....

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So why not checkraise all in?

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Jeez, why don't I think of things like that. This definitely will protect you from single heart redraws.

4_2_it · #10 11-11-2005, 10:31 AM

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If I check here, he's going to represent the flush whether he's got it or not....

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So why not checkraise all in?

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Brilliant!