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Re: A clue or two
Sup. Yeah, don't always carry my trout with me. ;-)
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#22
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Re: Hands please?
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sfer obviously has a set of riverd 4's. [/ QUOTE ] Pfft, only you would 3-bet a decent UTG with 4's then call a turn bet by an obvious AK (because you're the suckout king and would river a 4 everytime). |
#23
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Re: Hands please?
I am giving ranges. Of course, a particular player having a certain hand may make another hand given inthe range for another player inconsistnet but you should getthe idea.
Dave: AK, AQ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or AA, but I suspect AA. Brad: KK or AKs. UTG: AJ, AQ. UTG+2: TT-KK |
#24
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Re: Hands please?
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Why would he not bet that flop with AQ? [/ QUOTE ] Cuz with all of that action, he is likely behind. If he's not, he's WAY ahead, so why run anybody off? Also, the capper is likley raising him here, and he wants people to put money in when he has the nut frush draw. |
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No more guessing, time for judging
Brad has A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG has KK I have AK with the A crub UTG+2 said he had JJ How did we play the hand? |
#26
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Re: No more guessing, time for judging
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Brad has A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG has KK I have AK with the A crub UTG+2 said he had JJ How did we play the hand? [/ QUOTE ] Capping JJ against 2 TAG's who raise from EP is a risky proposition IMO. I also initially felt like a bet should go in on this flop, but I can't convince myself that someone clearly should have bet here. |
#27
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Re: Hands please?
certainly no chip-spewing postflop; if i had ak i would probably raise the turn when no club came. its possible you are up agains aa or another unlikely set, but with a club draw i think aa would play faster on the flop(which could have been a failed attempt at a checkraise). regardless i think he would let you know on the turn with a reraise to get the clubs out. all of the preflop activity seemed to scare everyone into passivity. with good position i would try to prey on that. this hand had something to scare everyone, except pocket 4s which would take a real maniac to play with all the preflop activity.
i mean pocket 3s. actually the more i think about it, the more i like the river raise. a turn reraise would have to be called and then it would get really tough to not follow through on the river. Ac was offsuit, right? |
#28
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Re: Hands please?
"BDK has KK and hates it."
Puh-leaze. |
#29
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Re: A clue or two
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I was UTG. I won't say I played the hand well, but I was in a very tough spot. I could've folded the turn, and I almost certainly should've folded to the river raise, but I fished out and called getting over 17-to-1 closing the action. [/ QUOTE ] It was nice playing with you. I think that the three decisions you made in this hand were defensible in isolation but when you put them together it looks like botchery. No biggie, this was a really, really big pot, and I don't trust Dave (SFer) either. |
#30
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Re: No more guessing, time for judging
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Brad has A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG has KK I have AK with the A crub UTG+2 said he had JJ How did we play the hand? [/ QUOTE ] as I said in my post, I think your flop check is fine given that you have the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I was kind of surprised you didn't raise the turn, but now I realize you knew you were chopping with Brad 100% of the time and would like to give the pocket pairs reason to believe they had the best hand Brad said he wanted to check-raise the flop. I thought he should check-call. when he cold calls a cap and check raises with an A on the board that just makes it too obvious. a check-call could still be a pocket pair. since it got checked through, I like his bet. UTG has got to muck KK on the turn |
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