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10-13-2005, 04:47 AM
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very simple, perhaps stupid, question.
is it possible for a very loose, very aggressive shorthanded player who plays brilliantly posflop - regardless of his opposition - be a longterm winner? let's call the stakes 10/20. live or online.
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10-13-2005, 04:48 AM
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Re: very simple, perhaps stupid, question.
why do you care?
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10-13-2005, 05:33 AM
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Again, 90k hands on 50%/40% 2.46bb winning player
80k hands 4 tabling
I had over 90k hands on this guy at the same winrate, (92k hands 2.46bb/100) no table selection.
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10-13-2005, 08:00 AM
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Re: Again, 90k hands on 50%/40% 2.46bb winning player
How many 50/30 players did you profile for that long? How many were winners? How many were losers? What is their standard deviation? While the sample of hands you have on that player is large, your sample for how many 50/30's that win is 1. That sample is insignificant. Please see this thread for why this one person tells us nothing.
WiteKnite
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10-13-2005, 08:42 AM
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Re: very simple, perhaps stupid, question.
[censored], dark_horse, are you in on this with excel?
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10-13-2005, 08:48 AM
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Re: Again, 90k hands on 50%/40% 2.46bb winning player
this is a good point of course.
But I do think that it's possible for an EXCELLENT post-flop player to actually be a winner at 10/20 6-max even if they played 50/30 or something. It would be very difficult to convince me that a Greenstein or Ivey or Reese couldn't do this.
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10-13-2005, 09:09 AM
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Re: very simple, perhaps stupid, question.
how loose and how aggressive? i've been playing around w/a looser game and am starting to really look at the merits of playing 35/25, at least at certain tables.
i'm assuming you mean someone more extreme than this tho, more in line w/the 50/40 guy
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10-13-2005, 09:14 AM
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Re: Again, 90k hands on 50%/40% 2.46bb winning player
Were you around when excel was doing his schtick initially? He was basically saying, everyone on the HUSH played to tight. If they were real poker players, they would be playing a 50/30 style. Instead of, you know, working on his game, he followed the super lags around the upper limits mining their play. He has yet to produce numbers on any 50/30 players that aren't winning. He never said how many 50/30's he had data on.
I think he is one of the people that Feeney talks about in "Inside the Poker Mind." He is looking for the "secret" to how these people play so many hands and yet win so much. Even if this one guy he talks about is beating the game playing 50/30, with a SD as high as I'm sure his is, he could be beating it for signicantly less in the long run. You are right about a WCP possibly being good enough, but then, why are they playing 10/20 6-max? WiteKnite
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