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Old 12-27-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Aces with horrible turn card

grunch

bet the turn, fold if raised (or maybe call and try to make flush).

if he wakes up to a high card on river i might raise.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Aces with horrible turn card

You fold a turn raise? What are we scared of here? The SF? If hero hits a diamond he's sitting on the Ace-flush.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:52 PM
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Bet the turn. You can't assume he has some raggedy nonsense, or a seven, or the flush. The times he doesn't (which is most of the time) you need to bet like crazy and win some dollaz. If you bet the turn and he raises, I would 3-bet that since you picked up the nut flush draw.

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i think 3-betting if he raises is a big mistake.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:59 PM
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(or maybe call and try to make flush).

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Change maybe to definitely.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:26 PM
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(or maybe call and try to make flush).

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Change maybe to definitely.

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yeah you're right. heh, grunching does help... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: Aces with horrible turn card

bet the turn
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Aces with horrible turn card

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If you bet the turn and he raises, I would 3-bet that since you picked up the nut flush draw.


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3betting qualifies as spew.

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I do not disagree with you, just want to pose a few questions

When I was first reading through the hand, I definitely thought hero should bet the turn here and I asked myself what would my action be if I was checkraised then.

if UTG checkraises here, does hero have to make the flush here to win?

if we do not improve on the river and UTG bets after the c/r, what's the plan?

if there were 2 players to act behind hero, would a 3-bet be a consideration on the turn then? (if we were c/r'd on the turn)
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