JJ vs. LAG

kongo_totte · #1 10-20-2005, 06:47 PM

Villian is 55/20/4, i.e. very aggressive. His standard raise PF is $15-$25.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

CO ($256.20)
Hero ($230.45)
SB ($196.70)
BB ($77.65)
UTG ($122.11)
MP ($396.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, 2 folds, MP calls $25.

Flop: ($83) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets $20, Hero raises to $65

Thoughts?

#2 10-20-2005, 07:02 PM

hmmm, if your gonna raise I like a bet more like $80 total

Does he bluff a lot on the turn and river? Calling flop and turn and evaluting river might be an option

Riposte · #3 10-20-2005, 07:20 PM

No draws are out really, except some bizarre straight draw. Why not call and let him keep firing at you?

xorbie · #4 10-20-2005, 07:22 PM

Just calling PF is also an option. Again, JJ vs the tricky ones is not so great.

kongo_totte · #5 10-20-2005, 07:23 PM

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No draws are out really, except some bizarre straight draw. Why not call and let him keep firing at you?

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It's one line, but is very expensive the times he has an A or KK/QQ.

Riposte · #6 10-20-2005, 07:30 PM

So you fold to a reraise then you mean? What if he calls your raise? I am just thinking a big pot here is bad.

Maybe you could call the flop, fold to a big turn bet?

kongo_totte · #7 10-20-2005, 07:34 PM

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So you fold to a reraise then you mean? What if he calls your raise? I am just thinking a big pot here is bad.

Maybe you could call the flop, fold to a big turn bet?

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Yes, the raise is to find out where I stand, with the extra bonus that it will probably fold out some hands that beat me KK/QQ. I am afraid he will start firing big with any 2 if I show weakness. I don't know this though.

elus2 · #8 10-20-2005, 07:38 PM

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Villian is 55/20/4, i.e. very aggressive. His standard raise PF is $15-$25.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

CO ($256.20)
Hero ($230.45)
SB ($196.70)
BB ($77.65)
UTG ($122.11)
MP ($396.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP raises to $15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, 2 folds, MP calls $25.

Flop: ($83) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets $20, Hero raises to $65

Thoughts?

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how large of a bet are you calling on the river if the turn is checked through?

kongo_totte · #9 10-20-2005, 07:39 PM

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how large of a bet are you calling on the river if the turn is checked through?

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Not large.

elus2 · #10 10-20-2005, 08:06 PM

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how large of a bet are you calling on the river if the turn is checked through?

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Not large.

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i'm not fond of a flop raise versus LAGs as many will make the decision harder for me on later streets. i prefer to flat call the flop and then raise if he bets smallish again on the turn and then try to take a free showdown. if he leads the river i will fold maybe 8 times in 10 unless offered very generous odds. if i had a better read on his tendencies at the river against passive opponents then i may decide to call a relatively larger turn bet.