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10-18-2005, 11:30 PM
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does clutch exist?
after ortizzle's performance last season, and pujols's this year, one would have to think that clutch DOES exist.
also, a-rod ALWAYS does crap when the games on the line, but pads his stats in blowouts. Just throwing it out there. Can anyone find any statistical analysis on this?? ZZzzZZzzZZzz 
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#3
10-18-2005, 11:51 PM
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Re: does clutch exist?
The strongest example of clutch I can think of is Tiger.
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#4
10-19-2005, 01:48 AM
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Re: does clutch exist?
Is that clutch or just greater ability than the others? Nicklaus had the same "clutchness" too. He never missed a crucial putt when he needed it. But he was simply a great putter. He was just so great at everything else that people didn't recognize him as a great putter. They said Watson or Crenshaw were great putters (which they were) because their putting made up for other parts of their game that was not as good as their putting.
Same with Tiger I think. People say Faxon is a great putter (which he is) but not Tiger. Because Tiger is great at everything. Still, there are probably players who had great ability but didn't get the most out of it because they couldn't peform in pressure situations. You can see it in Tiger's face down the stretch. Driven.
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#5
10-18-2005, 11:57 PM
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Re: does clutch exist?
do you even know arods postseason stats?
personally i think the whole "clutch" argument is stupid, everyone knows why its bullshit to say "oh hes clutch" about 2 games but i do believe there are people who choke in big spots. in fact i know that in big spots some players arent equipped to deal with it and will perform badly. but saying some player is really clutch is stupid. do you seeee whyyyy
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#6
10-19-2005, 12:00 AM
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Re: does clutch exist?
If some people can choke in big spots, others can excel in big spots. I don't think you can have it both ways.
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#7
10-19-2005, 12:05 AM
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Re: does clutch exist?
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If some people can choke in big spots, others can excel in big spots. I don't think you can have it both ways. [/ QUOTE ] You can't temporarily improve your power, your eyesight or whatever in certain situations, can you? Unless your not trying hard the rest of the time. But I could see how someone could try too much or just [censored] their pants in general important at bats.
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#8
10-19-2005, 12:07 AM
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Re: does clutch exist?
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[ QUOTE ] If some people can choke in big spots, others can excel in big spots. I don't think you can have it both ways. [/ QUOTE ] You can't temporarily improve your power, your eyesight or whatever in certain situations, can you? Unless your not trying hard the rest of the time. But I could see how someone could try too much or just [censored] their pants in general important at bats. [/ QUOTE ] I think you definitely can focus more in key situations. Do you think Chris Carpenter was as focused in his last 3-4 regular season starts when nothing mattered as he was the rest of the year, or in the playoffs?
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#9
10-19-2005, 12:10 AM
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Re: does clutch exist?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If some people can choke in big spots, others can excel in big spots. I don't think you can have it both ways. [/ QUOTE ] You can't temporarily improve your power, your eyesight or whatever in certain situations, can you? Unless your not trying hard the rest of the time. But I could see how someone could try too much or just [censored] their pants in general important at bats. [/ QUOTE ] I think you definitely can focus more in key situations. Do you think Chris Carpenter was as focused in his last 3-4 regular season starts when nothing mattered as he was the rest of the year, or in the playoffs? [/ QUOTE ] This is more just not performing to his full capabilities when he doesn't need to. Clutch really isn't about 'trying harder'.
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#10
10-19-2005, 12:11 AM
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Re: does clutch exist?
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I think you definitely can focus more in key situations. Do you think Chris Carpenter was as focused in his last 3-4 regular season starts when nothing mattered as he was the rest of the year, or in the playoffs? [/ QUOTE ] Sure, but wouldn't that be because he wasn't giving it his all and didn't really give a crap in his last few starts rather than he was being "clutch"? No doubt he was more focused but I don't see how focused = clutch. Esp. if you're talking for an entire season.
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