Calling the flop with air

[Benal]

This is not a play I attempt very often, but I'd obviously like to use it a little more when deepstacked.

Am I generally better off going for the turn checkraise or betting out?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t61071)
SB (t41057)
Hero (t69582)
UTG (t72505)
UTG+1 (t20147)
MP1 (t35685)
MP2 (t14420)
MP3 (t65271)
CO (t25188)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t3600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t2400.

Flop: (t6600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t3600</font>, Hero calls t3600.

Check/raise is much scarier than a donkbet.

I just prefer leading out on the flop. Leading out will only cost you t3000 to t4000, while calling the flop and leading the turn will cost you anywhere from t10000 to t14000 when you are wrong. A check-raise will be even more costly. Just leading the flop saves you money when the Button does wake up with a hand.

That is if you are going to check-fold if you get called. If you plan on firing a second barrel, it will cost you almost exactly the same, so it wont matter which option you chose.

IMO,

1.) Lead out on flop
2.) Call flop and lead turn
3.) Call flop and check-raise turn

[TakenItEasy]

The CR will be higher risk/reward but leading out on the flop will give you enough chips to take the table lead. No need to risk a significant portion of your stack here just for a bigger gap lead IMO. After taking the table lead the chip value begins to diminish.

[ansky451]

I very very rarely do this out of position. I'm way more likely to take a card off with nothig in position to see what my opponent does on the turn than I am when I have to speak first on the turn and river.