can you call this?

[SossMan]

good thread....I still disagree with your conclusion that you should have folded. Getting 1.6:1 on your call, give me a range of hands that would make it incorrect to call here? It will be narrower than Chile, I'm sure.

[BobboFitos]

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So if SB or BB had been the one to move on you, rather than CO-1, it would be an easy laydown, right?

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I think so. They are more likely to have a 2 than any other player, and a check-raise would actually make sense for a player in the blinds since calling and then checking the turn would be giving 2 free cards. If they're going to bet out on the turn, they may as well raise.

A player with a 2 and position could just call since they can bet the turn if I check so a call from CO-1 would have looked stronger than his raise from my perspective.

Edit: Also, the player with a 2 and players still to act would call so as to not scare off weak kings. The blinds wouldn't have to worry about scaring off anyone other than me.

Later,
Che

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Yeah, a CO-1 smoothcall would look scary indeed. And if the blinds decided to get involved then, it's an easy fold, so I do really like your idea of betting out...

... But I would probably check [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

And yeah, I guess a check/call lead out on turn for a blind would be pretty transparent, so they may as well C/R the flop with a 2. I like this thread. Thanks Che.

[Che]

Soss-

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I still disagree with your conclusion that you should have folded.

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My conclusion was to call, but I felt compelled to be honest and admit that I would probably still fold anyway most of the time (out of weakness).

I can understand the confusion based on the rambling nature of my results post. I didn't state my points very well.

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Getting 1.6:1 on your call, give me a range of hands that would make it incorrect to call here?

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If the positions were reversed, KJo better fold to my CO-1 push. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

But against an unknown or LAG player, I agree with you. Hard to put together a range of hands that makes calling incorrect.

Later,
Che