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Old 12-12-2005, 12:03 AM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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Default I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

......but maybe i am wrong. what do you think?

UTG here is 56/1.4/0.8 over 65 hands. i have yet to see any of his SD hands.

SB is like 35/8.
BB is 22/15/2.5 and a bit of an overaggro spaz.



what is the proper play here?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, folds to hero who does what?
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

I think its close. I'd raise and see what happens. 65 hands at 1.4 PFR means nothing.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

I'm assuming you're button, right? Actually doesn't matter, i'm folding this to someone with a 1.4 PFR %. I'd say this is AA/KK 70+% of the time.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

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65 hands at 1.4 PFR means nothing.

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??

bobby, i would just fold this. here's the pokerstove against a way bigger range than 1.4%

1,448,609,184 games 3.969 secs 364,980,897 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 55.2044 % [ 00.55 00.01 ] { AA-88, AKs-ATs, KQs-KTs, QJs, AKo-AJo, KQo-KJo, QJo }
Hand 2: 44.7956 % [ 00.44 00.01 ] { 88 }
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

Stupid AggroHushPoster messing with my head again. Believe me, what I say in here and what I do at the tables are not always the same. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Thanks for the pokerstove.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

3bet, not close imo. pokerstove does nothing to tell you how often you flop sets in short-handed aggro games, which is approx 4:1 against. flop the joint vs. this monkey and you're a [censored] rock star.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

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3bet, not close imo. pokerstove does nothing to tell you how often you flop sets in short-handed aggro games, which is approx 4:1 against. flop the joint vs. this monkey and you're a [censored] rock star.

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Did I ask for it or what?

Seriously tho, we have an equity deficiency against someone raising 15% too. Fold against them?
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

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3bet, not close imo. pokerstove does nothing to tell you how often you flop sets in short-handed aggro games, which is approx 4:1 against.

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it is? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

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3bet, not close imo. pokerstove does nothing to tell you how often you flop sets in short-handed aggro games, which is approx 4:1 against.

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it is? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Is this third-level sarcasm, or only second level?
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: I think this is an intersting preflop spot.........

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I'm assuming you're button, right? Actually doesn't matter, i'm folding this to someone with a 1.4 PFR %. I'd say this is AA/KK 70+% of the time.

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I disagree. It's strange, but the people who rarely raise do not necessarily raise with only the top hands. In fact, sometimes these very same players like to get clever and limp with AA-KK, etc.

Also, here it looks like the villain is not especially aggressive post-flop.

I would 3-bet here.
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