Hand vs. ScubaChuck@33

gildwulf · #1 12-10-2005, 06:22 PM

Curious what people think of this hand:

NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee
Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: jalbertb ( $1860 )
Seat 4: elkboy67 ( $654 )
Seat 5: Hero ( $1573 )
Seat 9: Turlockrep ( $2993 )
Seat 10: Scuba ( $920 )
Trny:18163176 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Th Qd ]
jalbertb folds.elkboy67 folds.
Hero is all-In [1573]
Turlockrep folds.
Scuba will be using his time bank for this hand.
Scuba is all-In [720]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 3c, 5d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
Scuba shows [ 4h, As ] a straight, three to seven.
Hero shows [ Th, Qd ] high card queen.
Hero wins 653 chips from side pot #1 with high card queen.
Scuba wins 1940 chips from the main pot

mlagoo · #2 12-10-2005, 06:29 PM

if he knows youre 2+2 it doesnt seem terrible, although it does seem fairly.. marginal, i guess.

if he doesnt know your 2+2, and doesnt have some other "ninja read" (bones, 2005) on you, it seems pretty bad.

wuwei · #3 12-10-2005, 06:33 PM

Good push, easy call v. a 2+2er.

gildwulf · #4 12-10-2005, 06:51 PM

I id'ed myself to him at the beginning of tourney as a 2+2

1C5 · #5 12-10-2005, 06:56 PM

Well there was your mistake. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

benza13 · #6 12-10-2005, 07:02 PM

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I id'ed myself to him at the beginning of tourney as a 2+2

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Then this looks fairly standard.

#7 12-10-2005, 07:54 PM

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Good push, easy call v. a 2+2er.

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Does this mean I shouldn't be calling *anybody's* all-in with A4?

The Don · #8 12-10-2005, 07:56 PM

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Good push, easy call v. a 2+2er.

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Does this mean I shouldn't be calling *anybody's* all-in with A4?

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You should... easy call v. anyone.

SammyKid11 · #9 12-10-2005, 10:28 PM

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You should... easy call v. anyone.

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Only against a maniacal pushing range is this anything but a CLEAR fold. Even if he's pushing 22+, A2s+, A3o+, KTs+, KJo+, QJs+ (ie - a wide range), this is an easy fold. Button has to be pushing 35% of hands (22+, A2+, K5o+, K2s+, Q9o+, Q8s+, J9s+) for this to be a a +0.5% call. From the button, with almost 8xBB, I don't think you can give a random opponent this wide a pushing range very often.

Perhaps, given Scuba knew his opponent was a 2+2'er, this was a marginally decent call (and I'm sure that information is why he made the call). But, absent that information, I do believe this is a fold, gentlemen.

Scuba Chuck · #10 12-10-2005, 10:41 PM

You didn't mention how much time I put into thinking about whether to call or not.