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Old 11-07-2005, 02:45 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

As others have mentioned, why not just call the turn?
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

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wow, i knew you were an idiot, but this big of an idiot?
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can't we all be friends
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

Yes, i know, that wouldve been the correct move.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

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Villain is one of the tightest players on the table, is pretty aggresive, and I have bluffed him outta couple big ones.5/10 20 to open.
This hand took place before the other one.
Villain has about 4k, i have about 5.5k.
He raises UTG to 80, i have AKh, i call.
normally I would reraise this, but against villains range of hands, Akh is most def a dog, or we both have the same hand, plus im getting no respect, so if he moves in with something like JJ, i cant call.
Flop is 73Kr 1 heart, he pots, i call.
Turn is 5h.
He pots it again, I raise to 1200, he calls.
River is A, he moves in, I fold.

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hey tbg,

others have questioned the turn raise, i'm wondering why you basically minraised? by my math pot is 525 on the turn, so he pots it and you made it 675 on top? a call would be fine, but if you want to raise then just move in, you'd probably push him off AA.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

raising the turn has the nice effect of allowing you to lose less on the river a certain % of the time...

also, did you show those earlier bluffs? if villain holds QQ maybe he doesnt fold here invariably
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:11 PM
thabadguy thabadguy is offline
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

I dont think he folds AA given my image, i realize the turn raise was a mistake, the only advantage being, that he is committed to pay me off if i hit my flush.
It was not a good move.
There is no way he has QQ on river, at best it is a chop, most likely not, he flips over AA, KK way too often for a river call to be profitable.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

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I dont think he folds AA given my image.

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You have one hell of an image.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

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I dont think he folds AA given my image.

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You have one hell of an image.

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did you ever see the thread entitled "beating up on weaktight nits"
really sick.
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

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I dont think he folds AA given my image.

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You have one hell of an image.

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did you ever see the thread entitled "beating up on weaktight nits"
really sick.

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Yea i remember that one, and im not arguing w/ thabadguy- if he says so im sure villain will call w/ AA here most of the time. Moreso im just remarking how amazing it is that his image is that good.

Out of curiousity TBG; do you think you stack villain if the river is a K? also were you checking behind this river? (i cant imagine that... although it seems you should vs his range).
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Another live DS hand.

If he checks river, I think i check behind.
He isnt calling a value bet on river with QQ.
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