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Old 11-06-2005, 03:53 PM
thabadguy thabadguy is offline
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Default Interesting Live Deep hand

5/10, 20 to open.
Villain(Al krux) has 4.5
I have 6.5 at the table, bought in for 3 , havent hit many hands but have been steamrolling table all night,(am a lil "intoxicated".
Ive flipped up many uncalled bluffs and put a few players on tilt.
I raise to 80 UTG with 56o
Al krux calls in co, every1 else folds.
Flop is A56r.
I check, Krux bets 200, i call, and bet 1500 in the dark.
Turn is a K, and Krux moves in, I call.
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Live Deep hand

I think there is a better flop line given your image then check/call. bet3bet probably won't work against al krux (is he a good cash game player?), you probably have been bluff check-raising like I know you do 24/7, so why not check-raise here?

edit: How do you play 78 here?
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:00 PM
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"you probably have been bluff check-raising like I know you do 24/7"
Cmon man...no respect...tsk tsk.
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:06 PM
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wow.
you play pretty good.
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:07 PM
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lol, nah man..they dont call me mahi-mahi for nothgin
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:09 PM
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What if turn is J or T?
and he moves in.
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Live Deep hand

Check-raising this flop is absolutely the right line. The turn call I probably make also, but I'm not positive about it solely because you bet blind. Why would you do this? You're telegraphing to Al that you are not afraid to put money in and are indicating strength, and he still doesn't particularly care.
Normally I would doubt he has AK and put him on AQ-AT making a stand against a maniac, but that's a hard stand to make after you've just said you're willing to put in half his stack on the turn regardless of what card comes.
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Old 11-06-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Live Deep hand

I've played with Al in this game and he tends to play quite strangely, though I've never seen him get it in there like this without a big hand. I personally think you are crushed, with a decent chance of being dead here.

I also like a huge CR on the flop. Make him decide how he wants the hand to play out.
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Old 11-06-2005, 07:51 PM
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to the turn: $575 in the pot, al has about 4.25 left and you have about 6.25 left.

you bet 1500 blind into the 575 pot and all pushes on a board of

AK65. would al do this with a naked ace? if you bet blind, you could have a bluff, why would he want to set you in when he could easily call with his hand and let you bet the river.

he either really wants you to fold or he really wants you to call here and im leaning towards the latter. think about how he'd play this with his different range of holdings. would any random bluff hand bet the flop here into a known checkraiser (apparantly)? would he then push another 2.75 into the pot on top of your 1.5?

i honestly think his hand range here is AK/AA/KK/55/66/maybe A5s/A6s if you've been opening way light, and maybe, just maybe AQ/AJ given your image.

id think that on teh turn you are virtually crushed. 3.5 or so in the pot and you have another 2.75 to call. so just over 2:1. given the range and "outs' you have + the chance you're outs are no good i think make this a fold.

HOWEVER, the bet on the turn is quite large and its one of those monster/air type bets. if he thinks you've been nutso enough to bluff this far then his only real option is to push, but i dont see a top player thinking like that assuming thats what he is. if, however, you've gotten him into a state for which that play would not be out of the question then yes i agree with the call.

as of right now though, i vote fol.d

Barron
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: Interesting Live Deep hand

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What if turn is J or T?
and he moves in.

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I think that's an easier call.
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