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Old 10-08-2005, 07:56 PM
KramerTM KramerTM is offline
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nah, i think pokerstars will just continue making money and being happy.

i laugh at all the guys dependant on rakeback

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This guy will be pelted to death with some small, hard objects before he reaches his 10,000th post. Just a prediction.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:58 PM
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nah, i think pokerstars will just continue making money and being happy.

i laugh at all the guys dependant on rakeback

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so do i, i dont depend on rakeback at all but hey its less money a month, it sucks
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:01 PM
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I'm not dependent on rakeback, but it makes a big difference. I estimate I can make ~120k a year playing poker, and about 30k of that is rakeback. That's a lot of cash.

Sorry Daryn we can't all play 100/200.
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:03 PM
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i laugh at all the guys dependant on rakeback

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Was this directed at me? I can't tell....

*whistles*


ps you're a dick
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:33 PM
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It'd be nice if there was a method to simply exchange FPPs for real money. Generally, you get 5 FPPs per $1 in tournament entry fees. Their bonuses are generally setup so you have to earn 5x the FPPs to get the bonus, so that's essentially 100% rakeback over however many hands it takes you to reach your bonus amount...

If you could trade back 25 FPPs for $1 in real money at any time that would be a *huge* incentive I think. Even 50 FPPs would be reasonable... Not all of us want to play satellites to $10k tournies or buy merchandise, although obviously the reasoning behind those options is that we'd be promoting PokerStars for them.
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:59 PM
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I'm not dependent on rakeback, but it makes a big difference. I estimate I can make ~120k a year playing poker, and about 30k of that is rakeback. That's a lot of cash.

Sorry Daryn we can't all play 100/200.

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Same here. People make it sound like rakeback is only seriously benefitting people who really suck. Well, thanks to the awesome new $3 6 max rake, my last clump of 5/10 6 max hands is about $10,000 each in profit and rakeback. With 30% rakeback, I take nearly 2/3 of the money that I pull out of circulation. Without rakeback, Empire and I split it 50/50.

So everyone stop with the condescending [censored] bullshit like rakeback only matters to fish. 3k a month in rakeback is the mortgage on a nice [censored] house.

Dan
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:24 PM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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nah, i think pokerstars will just continue making money and being happy.

i laugh at all the guys dependant on rakeback

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I have good friends whose livelihoods and families depend on other players earning rakeback. It's a full time job for them to do this and they put in a honest day's work doing it.

I sure hope you don't ever get [censored] over on your job when you have a family and huge bills to pay.

Lawrence
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:37 PM
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nah, i think pokerstars will just continue making money and being happy.

i laugh at all the guys dependant on rakeback

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I think you're generally spot on, but this is way off the mark and demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of the situation and the consequences of recent events.

Even lots of really solid players just had their bottom line cut by thousands of dollars per month.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:43 PM
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Even lots of really solid players just had their bottom line cut by thousands of dollars.


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Why should anyone that doesn't have rakeback care? You rakeback collectors were smart, no doubt. However you are taking money out of the pockets of players who do not have rakeback. Or do you not understand that?
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:45 PM
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i laugh at all the guys dependant on rakeback

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If you are passing on the chance of increasing your earnings power, I laugh at you.

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keep laughing while i beat soft games on pokerstars, maybe if you laugh hard enough you will magically move up in limits and/or become good enough to win at poker without rakeback
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