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Old 09-01-2005, 10:22 PM
skiier04 skiier04 is offline
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Default Can you find a place to fold here??

PF perhaps??? Is the limp okay??

PokerStars Game #2476765174: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2005/09/01 - 22:18:24 (ET)
Table 'Endymion III' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: mydream4u ($125 in chips)
Seat 2: Palladium ($50 in chips)
Seat 3: dursk3 ($30 in chips)
Seat 4: skiier04 ($128.50 in chips)
Seat 5: jballman19 ($192 in chips)
Seat 6: Sam Sever ($40 in chips)
Palladium: posts small blind $1
dursk3: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to skiier04 [Kd Jd]
skiier04: calls $2
jballman19: calls $2
Sam Sever: folds
mydream4u: folds
Palladium: raises $2 to $4
dursk3: calls $2
skiier04: calls $2
jballman19: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [4c Jh 8s]
Palladium: bets $2
dursk3: calls $2
skiier04: raises $2 to $4
jballman19: calls $4
Palladium: raises $2 to $6
dursk3: calls $4
skiier04: calls $2
jballman19: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4c Jh 8s] [4d]
Palladium: bets $4
dursk3: calls $4
skiier04: calls $4
jballman19: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [4c Jh 8s 4d] [4s]
Palladium: bets $4
dursk3: folds
skiier04: calls $4
jballman19: calls $4
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:27 PM
damaniac damaniac is offline
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Default Re: Can you find a place to fold here??

Turn is semi-close, but not really. Your J outs likely good, your K outs are when he has QQ (not when he has AA/KK/JJ). So between the 2 clean outs and implied odds, and the sometimes out (call if bet into, bet if checked to) you can call the turn. By the river, I think I fold if I know that the bettor is pretty reasonable and not subject to being pretty aggressive with marginal holdings. If not, you can call, but I don't know that I expect to win very much.
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:31 PM
jt1 jt1 is offline
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Default Re: Can you find a place to fold here??

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If not, you can call, but I don't know that I expect to win very much

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You don't have to win very often. This pot is huge!
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:42 PM
Bodhi Bodhi is offline
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Default Re: Can you find a place to fold here??

It's hard to give you good advice because your post is so hard to read and doesn't give information about the pot size...But, you can fold the turn if the villain is straightforward. All of the bigger pocket pairs beat you, JJ-AA, and you're also in bad shape vs. AJs.

Even if the villain were trying to be tricky, they wouldn't 3 bet the flop with something you beat while stupid is calling behind you.

Lastly, raise preflop.

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Lovely river open-fold SB.
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: Can you find a place to fold here??

If you can't use the hand coverter, at least format the hand with the suits. Like A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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