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Old 06-21-2005, 01:38 AM
benkath1 benkath1 is offline
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Default Re: WA/WB? Raise?

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Why didn't you raise the flop? It'd be a little easier to play if that had happened. Cracked kings suck, but I hope that didn't change your play on this hand.

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I'm pretty sure the way Jaran played it is better than raising the flop

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Thank you. After reading you first reply, I can understand this. I agree with you completely, just not quite at that level. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 06-21-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: WA/WB? Raise?

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I'm pretty sure the way Jaran played it is better than raising the flop

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I read your first post and still dont understand why raising the turn would be better here. If we raise the turn then we are gonna get called down by weaker hands but reraised by hands that beat us.
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Old 06-21-2005, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: WA/WB? Raise?

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I'm pretty sure the way Jaran played it is better than raising the flop

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I read your first post and still dont understand why raising the turn would be better here. If we raise the turn then we are gonna get called down by weaker hands but reraised by hands that beat us.

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the point is that even bad aggressive players have a hard time not slowplaying trip kings here. so he is going to be calling down a weaker hand more often than reraising trip kings (simply because the action usually means he doesn't have a king).

this flop and turn action is more consistent (imo) with QT or any J than it is with a king.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: WA/WB? Raise?

One bump just cuz

-Jaran
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:19 AM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: WA/WB? Raise?

I think I like a river raise better than a turn raise if villain is capable of folding. It would suck to raise the turn and have villain fold because we miss out on the extra bet he will make on the river.

A flop call is almost certainly correct though. I would agree with bottomset that this is a WA/WB hand where we are WA more often than usual.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: WA/WB? Raise?

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since a fair # of hands he's betting aren't calling a river raise, but might still call a turn raise .. I think a turn raise is the play here


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How many hands would he call with on the river after calling the turn raise? Anything other than AJ, QQ? I think calling all the way is better than raising the turn, because there are lots of hands that the villain will surrender on the river after meeting some resistance on the turn. However, we'll loose more when he does have the king if we raise the turn.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:03 AM
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Jaran, table 37753 (or Hippies Joint?)

I saw you raise preflop, get 3bet, then fold for 1 SB on the flop on a Qxx flop. What gives?
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: WA/WB? Raise?

AJo and I felt he had it...sometimes I play by feel. I don't have a problem w/a fold there. I put him on AA-TT, AK/AQ. I don't have a lot of outs against those hands, and could be drawing basically dead. Decided to fold and play another hand where I have an advantage.

-Jaran

Edit:the pot was not so big anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:20 AM
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AJo and I felt he had it...sometimes I play by feel. I don't have a problem w/a fold there. I put him on AA-TT, AK/AQ. I don't have a lot of outs against those hands, and could be drawing basically dead. Decided to fold and play another hand where I have an advantage.

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Edit:the pot was not so big anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Fair enough =).
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Old 06-21-2005, 06:01 AM
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I would re raise the flop. If he calls or re raises, check or call down unless an A shows up.
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