A hand for discussion

Jaran · #1 06-04-2005, 07:21 PM

I thought I would post this hand because it is very contrary to ABC poker. I'm also posting it sans read on the villian. I thought it would be fun for y'all to think of a read that would cause me to play this hand this way against this particular villian.

-Jaran

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

kapw7 · #2 06-04-2005, 07:28 PM

I can't find a single action that doesn't look bad in this hand.

Jaran · #3 06-04-2005, 07:29 PM

Exactly. Why would I do this? Assume I do have a reason for it. (cuz I do).

-Jaran

shadow29 · #4 06-04-2005, 07:30 PM

If I were playing this is how it would go.

PF- call, call.
Flop- check/fold.

shadow29 · #5 06-04-2005, 07:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Assume I do have a reason for it. (cuz I do).

[/ QUOTE ]

You're drunk?

You hate money?

Beats me chief.

Isura · #6 06-04-2005, 07:34 PM

Your action is only sensible against a total maniac who will slow down to any sign of aggression. Even then, I think the caldown is marginally profitable at best. Maniacs even have A3 once in a while.

cold_cash · #7 06-04-2005, 07:41 PM

I think if the CO is an over-aggresive spaz who is currently off his rocker you should either 3-bet pre-flop or raise the flop.

From the looks of it you made up your mind to showdown right after you saw your cards, which is fine, but if that's the route you're taking I think you need to find a way to get MP3 out of the mix.

I'm not sure I would do it in this spot unless the guy was a maniac of epic proportions. After all, there still aren't that many hands you're beating.

VBM · #8 06-04-2005, 07:42 PM

read: villain has raised every hand PF; or has some, known superstitious belief in 6Ts...?

Fantam · #9 06-04-2005, 07:43 PM

Jaran I know that you are a good player but you have lost me on this one.

Call the flop with an overcard and backdoor flush ok.

Call the turn with an overcard and gutshot ok.

Call the river with nothing [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ?

I think I would have preferred bet the river or maybe even 3-bet it, although that seems a bit crazy.

I cant think of any read that made you play this way. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Ok I will read the rest of the posts now and wait for you to enlighten me.

Jaran · #10 06-04-2005, 07:55 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I think if the CO is an over-aggresive spaz who is currently off his rocker you should either 3-bet pre-flop or raise the flop.

From the looks of it you made up your mind to showdown right after you saw your cards, which is fine, but if that's the route you're taking I think you need to find a way to get MP3 out of the mix.

I'm not sure I would do it in this spot unless the guy was a maniac of epic proportions. After all, there still aren't that many hands you're beating.

[/ QUOTE ]

Pretty much right on. For the record, if MP3 had called the flop, I'm betting any turn card. I don't do this very often, but my read on CO was super solid.

-Jaran