ne1 who doesn't visit the guys upstairs should read this thread

[Tim H]

skipped the pissing match portion but the analysis of his play etc ... is exceptional

Being a a n00b myself it kinda brings that section in SS to light about how Doyle usually starts off a loser etc ...

Thread in Mid-High Stakes NL

[Los Feliz Slim]

The pissing match stuff is hilarious, though. "Paul hurt my feelings" "Don't tell ME how to act".

Jesus, people, grow a pair.

EDIT: OK, I kept reading and it got really annoying. Never mind it being hilarious.

[MikeL]

Ok, I tried to read through it, but found only
pissing match material. Could you editorialize the
portion you found enlightening?

Regards,
Mike L.

[TrailofTears]

Okay, so exactly when does it get good to read and why?

[Tim H]

edit:
on second thought:
if you guys are 2 lazy to read through it I am not gonna do your work for you.

You're right nothing important here

[jhall23]

Yeah it's too bad that all the WPT forum crowd had to follow him into Mid-High and destroy the thread. I used to wonder why Paul only posted in that forum and wished he would post in Mid-High or MTT, but I now see that he'll attract the usual trollish behavior where ever he goes.

[PinkSteel]

After the original post and Philips' followup, I found exactly one post with actual content, and it was well worth reading. Titled "Perspective from a player in the game", by username Michael Jensen. Made wading through the whole pissing match worthwhile.

[Tim H]

there are 4 that i found:

PP: 1.What a strange perspective...

2. Obviously throwing tons of money into speculative hands preflop to double/triple up is a positive expectation play for you ...

3. I was playing at the table next to Paul Phillips...

4. How do you think spirit rock wins on ub ....

[MikeL]

Ok, I've read through the "insightful" posts you mentioned
and here is my .02:

1) You can no more judge how to play NL by watching Paul
Phillips piss away or make his chump change than you can
by watching a high-roller work off his tilt at the penny
tables.

2) What is listed here is anecdotal, at best. There is
no way to determine if his one time clean up
was nothing more than the necessary variance that this
type play generates.

3) Most players must go through the following stages, and
in order, to learn all aspect of NL poker:
a) Weak-Tight play (to learn not to play the hands that
look good but lose a ton of cash).
b) Tight-Aggressive (to learn how to protect big but
vulnerable hands and to increase the profit on
made hands.)

Then, and only then, can one understand how to play:

c) Loose-Aggressive

Be careful jumping into the deep water before learning
how to swim REALLY well,

Mike L.

[Tim H]

exactly ... nothing concrete just things to ponder about

like I said in the original post. It really made me think about the section in SuperSystem when DB talks about starting out a loser in most of the games. Giving lots of action at which point you tighten up. Changing gears always "baffled" me (how to do it, when to do it, how to accomplish, what hands to do it with)

or

like u said he was tilting off his chips and got lucky, which I have a hard time believing