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Old 12-01-2005, 04:04 PM
Benman Benman is offline
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Default Clinton vs Bush

Responsible liberal president = $150 taxes ; $150 expenditures

Responsible conservative president = $50 taxes; $50 expenditures

Clinton = $120 taxes ; $120 expenditures

Bush = $90 taxes; $125 expenditures (even after adjustments for war)


So, is Bush a) conservative; b) liberal; or c) neither, just irresponsible
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:09 PM
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Responsible liberal president = $150 taxes ; $150 expenditures

Responsible conservative president = $50 taxes; $50 expenditures

Clinton = $120 taxes ; $120 expenditures

Bush = $90 taxes; $125 expenditures (even after adjustments for war)


So, is Bush a) conservative; b) liberal; or c) neither, just irresponsible

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Bush certainly has been fiscally irresponsible (Prescription drug bill comes to mind) but it's Congress who "spends" the money. Both sides are guilty in that respect.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:04 PM
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Responsible liberal president = $150 taxes ; $150 expenditures

Responsible conservative president = $50 taxes; $50 expenditures

Clinton = $120 taxes ; $120 expenditures

Bush = $90 taxes; $125 expenditures (even after adjustments for war)


So, is Bush a) conservative; b) liberal; or c) neither, just irresponsible

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Why do people consistently give the President credit for a budget? It's the house, morans.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:23 PM
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GOP as a whole has completely dropped the ball. Chance of a lifetime blown. Very sad.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: Clinton vs Bush

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Responsible liberal president = $150 taxes ; $150 expenditures

Responsible conservative president = $50 taxes; $50 expenditures

Clinton = $120 taxes ; $120 expenditures

Bush = $90 taxes; $125 expenditures (even after adjustments for war)


So, is Bush a) conservative; b) liberal; or c) neither, just irresponsible

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Why do people consistently give the President credit for a budget? It's the house, morans.

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You mean the Republican-controled house?

Why didn't Bush veto the budget if it was so bloated? You act like he has no power.
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Old 12-01-2005, 06:40 PM
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The budget process for the U.S. Federal government involves both the executive and legislative branches of government. The President submits a budget to Congress, which then passes legislation to actually appropriate and authorize funds to be spent.

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I know Congress is responsible for appropriations and the pork in the budget. But you can't deny that a lot of the expenses were either the result of the executive branch's proposed budget. Also, most of the new spending legislation over the last 5 or 6 years was requested and pressed for politically by the Bush white house.
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Old 12-01-2005, 07:30 PM
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Why do people consistently give the President credit for a budget? It's the house, morans.

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Credit/blame is always assigned by the party/person(s) according to the point being made. That's what our system has become.

Yeah, House originates, Senate refines, President signs off on. Along the way everybody gets their pet projects/supporters taken care of.

In the final analysis, though, GWB does have to assume final responsibility. He did sign off rather than veto. Call it pragamatics of the office/politics, whatever. But he has signed every spending bill he's received.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:20 PM
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Why do they call it "Bush's tax cut" when wanting to give credit for it?
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