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Old 05-27-2005, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely

PF: I wouldn't raise it, I don't like all the players in the hand. I'd fold it.

Postflop, looks fine, there's nothing too scary out there, you've got top pair with a good kicker and nobody is giving you any resistance.
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Old 05-27-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely

LEAK! If one of the limpers was tight I think about folding, otherwise it's either a raise or call. I prefer raise.

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PF: I wouldn't raise it, I don't like all the players in the hand. I'd fold it.


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Old 05-27-2005, 01:57 PM
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I don't think I like raising this pre-flop, especially for someone who is out of practice. KJ is too easily dominated and a raise from the button isn't going to thin the field.
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Old 05-27-2005, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely

That's okay, I don't think calling is a leak. He said fold, and that is a leak. Calling and raising here is pretty close.

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I don't think I like raising this pre-flop, especially for someone who is out of practice. KJ is too easily dominated and a raise from the button isn't going to thin the field.

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Old 05-27-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely

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a raise from the button isn't going to thin the field.

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This is an interesting point.

This is certainly table dependent but I find if you just call, sb will complete ~80% of the time and bb will usually check without a strong multiway hand. If you raise, SB will call 10-20% of the time and BB will call ~60% of the time.

So I think a raise can often increase your pot equity and the times you don't hit you will have a free look at the turn fairly often (or a flop bet can give you a free look at the river). A preflop raise can also save you from the disaster of a reverse dominating hand like J4 or J5 in one of the blinds. Finally there are 2 limpers from MP which makes me think we are usually way ahead of them and they may even be the ones dominated or drawing slim. If there was an EP limper I would probably change to a call here.

However, given the read on the SB here I think a call is fine.
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Old 05-27-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Out of practice...Pretty basic, most likely

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PF: I wouldn't raise it, I don't like all the players in the hand. I'd fold it.

Postflop, looks fine, there's nothing too scary out there, you've got top pair with a good kicker and nobody is giving you any resistance.

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Wrong.

You're on the button, and there are plenty of players in this hand. Call. Also, OP has a good read on the players, so he has enough information to make this a safe play.

Also, the fact that he has TPGK all the way through helps. I bet he took this one down.
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