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Re: KTs in a kill pot 5/10@FW
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It makes the rest of the hand play smoother. [/ QUOTE ] How? He should be raising preflop for much more sound reasons than this one. |
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Re: KTs in a kill pot 5/10@FW
Look at the action of what happened.
Think about what would happen if you raise pre-flop. Smoother > the obvious: [ QUOTE ] Must raise preflop, you have what is likely the best hand, there is a lot of dead money out there and can buy the button. [/ QUOTE ] Certainly, that plays a part ... but the whole hand may avoid this cluster-scenario of what did happen with the raise pre-flop. Barron Vangor Toth BarronVangorToth.com |
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Raise pre-flop. It makes the rest of the hand play smoother. [/ QUOTE ] You've neither explained why or even what you mean, so others are left to guess. You just assert it is so, and one doesn't know what is-ness is. Is it the idea that you've defined your hand for others (and thereby created some logical structure to consider their actions)? That others have defined their hands by calling? Both? What? It's hard to have a conversation in this medium with someone who waves their hands. |
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Re: KTs in a kill pot 5/10@FW
Must raise preflop, you have what is likely the best hand, there is a lot of dead money out there and can buy the button.
Raise the flop, you likely have the best hand can still knock out a few players behind you and build yourself a nice pot. If you look at this out of turn action as calling 3-cold, you are getting 12:3 which fine for your nut draw, even if you are short of paired board outs. |
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Must raise preflop, you have what is likely the best hand, there is a lot of dead money out there and can buy the button. [/ QUOTE ] Are those tables passive enough that we're not worried about someone limping with KQ or KJ there? |
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Are those tables passive enough that we're not worried about someone limping with KQ or KJ there? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, they do this Scott but their range of hands is so large, Axo, 75o, 53s, 22, Kxo, J2s, etc that you are gaining some overlay, in addition to leveraging your position and mixing up your play. They are morans, pound on them. |
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Must raise preflop, you have what is likely the best hand... [/ QUOTE ] KTs? Likely best hand? 3 random hands still out, plus a couple limpers, and king-high-no-kicker is taking down best hand honors already? Hmmm. I agree that raising is acceptable. In my opinion, limping is too, especially if the kill pot encourages people to just limp with hands like AK, KQ... I don't have lots of live experience with kill pots, but I suspect they cause people to play a little differently than normal. -Eric |
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Re: KTs in a kill pot 5/10@FW
It's a must raise in LP there if he has the least remote chance to buy the button.
A hand I played a long time ago in the same game... [ QUOTE ] don't have lots of live experience with kill pots, but I suspect they cause people to play a little differently than normal. [/ QUOTE ] They do play a little different...the tight ones play tighter and the loose ones play looser. |
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They do play a little different...the tight ones play tighter and the loose ones play looser. [/ QUOTE ] The loose ones play LOOSER? Then I like a raise a lot more. I'd have guessed everyone would be a little more scared with the bigger stakes. If they are really coming in even weaker than normal, then push your preflop equity edge. -eric |
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Results
Sorry for the delay in the results.
My buddy folded to the 2-bet possible 3-bet. The button did 3-bet and it was 3-way to the river of the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. The kill had A3o and the button had 33 for the flopped set. Thanks to everyone for the great responses. Joe |
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