Trip Queens Hand

colgin · #1 09-16-2005, 08:13 AM

The pre-flop raiser (UTG) in this hand is a little LAGgy. I don't have much of a read on MP but he seems loose and not overly aggressive.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: (3.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, MP caps, Hero calls.

River: (12.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.20 BB

sthief09 · #2 09-16-2005, 08:17 AM

usually when someone else puts in the last bet, your best move is to check the river. the reason for this is because if you bet, not planning to 3-bet, you win 1 if he calls or lose 2 if he raises. if you check-raise, you win 2 if ahead, and lose 3 if behind (and you're less likely to lose the 3). so you're getting 3-2 instead of 2-1. JR taught me that and it's something that comes up pretty often.

also, there's very little chance he's going for a free showdown. if he's raising hearts, he doesn't have a hand that'll pay off anyway, so there's no value in betting there. here I don't know if I'd check-call or check-raise (probably check-raise), but the important part is that you should be checking here

colgin · #3 09-16-2005, 08:41 AM

Thanks this is really helpful. I was most interested in the river (my flop check was a whiffed c/r atempt).

I was unsure of whether I should check-call or bet-call here. I have read before about the idea of check-raising on the river in such situations but didn't quite "get it". Your explanation make this a lot more clear to me.

colgin · #4 09-16-2005, 12:22 PM

Villain had Q2o and MHIG.

Once again, sthief's advice here is AWESOME!

spydog · #5 09-16-2005, 12:34 PM

I'm not sure I like your turn 3-bet. It's very likely that UTG will call MP's raise with Ax, which is a probably holding.

So, I think I like calling the turn raise if UTG also calls and then donking the river. It's fun to make Ax feel real awkward, isn't it?

Fnord · #6 09-19-2005, 02:30 PM

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usually when someone else puts in the last bet, your best move is to check the river.

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Not at all concerned about him checking the river behind?