TT vs The field

[kiddo]

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Everyone who thinks you should bet out on this flop should go back and reread all their poker books.


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Which parts of which books are you thinking about?

We got 2 LAGs in this hand, one on our left and one on our right, both only called preflop but BB called from with really good odds so he probably can have any2, including the rags now on flop. If we bet flop (which everyone will think is overcards) BB will raise any pair and often with overcards. Then we can 3bet and get a lot of money in when we are big favourites.

If BB doesnt fold but only calls the LAG on our right will raise any pair and sometimes overcards and we can again 3bet when we got best hands.

Also, I dont see what we are afraid off? How likely will any of the others have 2 overcards to our Ts? Not often at all. They will think any hand with 2 cards above 7 means they got 6 outs but normally they chase 3 outs, and there is a decent chance they - if they call or raise - are chasing same overcards.

Also, in this actual hand when our Hero checks, I dont see why we should only call? There are 16 overcards in deck. And the normal scenario - even if turn is another rag - is that BB will bet again and make it impossible to force them out.

Yes, if we raise when everyone called BB on flop we will give them better odds on turn. But why is this? It is because we got more money in on a street where the others probably got 3 or 5 outs.

[Poldi]

We have an equity edge on the flop but against the whole field it is not that big. The turn card will change our equity a lot. You miss an equity advantage to make use of an even greater equity advantage on a favourable turn card.

This is the idea but to make perfect use of it you kinda have to expect the same action on the flop (being able to trap most or all of them for 2 bets). You cant expect anyone to bet the turn when another rag hits as there were so many callers on the flop.
So in my eyes it was correct to use the equity advantage on the turn as you have to bet the turn anyways so it doesnt get checked through.

[kiddo]

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We have an equity edge on the flop but against the whole field it is not that big.

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We are against 3 players. Lets say 1 of them hit a pair on flop and got 5 outs. The other 2 got 1 overcard, and not the same, for 3 outs. They got 11 cards, we got the rest of the deck. We will be ahead about 3/4 on turn. If we raise we will get 4SB into pot, 3SB of those are ours. And we pay 1SB. We will win 1BB if we raise flop. A good player at this level will win 2BB/100 so we need a pretty good reason to not go for that 1BB.