3/6, QQ w/ king high flop, see showdown?

iluzion · #1 08-27-2005, 05:18 PM

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero?

Don't have much of a read on villain. What do I do here vs a slight passive or slight aggressive player or an unkown like this is?

Final Pot: 7 BB

jba · #2 08-27-2005, 05:22 PM

I really think you need to bet the turn here. villain will have clubs a lot of the time here, why check through the turn??

you have to call the river, it's too easy to bluff there.

ggbman · #3 08-27-2005, 05:34 PM

I like your line a lot, but you realize this river is about the easiest call in the world right?

Lmn55d · #4 08-27-2005, 06:05 PM

I like the turn check. If he has clubs he's probably gonna bluff the river like most players anyway so you don't lose a bet. You also avoid folding the best hand, and induce bluffs/calls from random Ax or other hands. Unless he has flush draw he has at most 3 outs and usually way ahead or drawing dead.

jba · #5 08-27-2005, 06:08 PM

what about all the times he has a PP or nut flush draw and will call bets on both streets?

Lmn55d · #6 08-27-2005, 06:09 PM

yea that's obviously the negative but I think the factors I mentioned outweighed those that you mentioned. Against a loose passive betting is best. Against someone who is decently aggressive with the potential to checkraise with an inferior hand or who bluffs a v. high frequency of time on river, checking is better imo.

jba · #7 08-27-2005, 06:11 PM

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yea that's obviously the negative but I think the factors I mentioned outweighed those that you mentioned. Against a loose passive betting is best. Against someone who is decently aggressive with the potential to checkraise with an inferior hand or who bluffs a v. high frequency of time, checking is better imo.

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i'll buy that.