Value bet TT on river?

SkyRocker · #1 04-22-2005, 11:37 AM

No read on MP2 but the table is tight (~25% VP$IP)

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ts Tc (full house, threes full of tens).
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins 6.50 BB. 

Should I be value betting or trying to induce a bluff on the river against an unknown opponent?

jaxUp · #2 04-22-2005, 11:39 AM

You should be value betting this all day long. I have been falling into a trap of checking these hands OOP. I lie to myself and say I want to induce a bluff, but really, I am a pussy. So, stop lying to yourself. Bet that mutha.

Marquis · #3 04-22-2005, 11:44 AM

You shouldn't have shown the river action. Easy bet tho, what more do you want?

SkyRocker · #4 04-22-2005, 11:52 AM

Yes Sir!

HajiShirazu · #5 04-22-2005, 11:54 AM

This is like, the easiest value bet in the world. And 3 bet if raised. You'll get called/raised by all sorts of crazy hands here since there are no face cards and most people just can't believe you could have the overpair you're representing.

Amerretto · #6 04-22-2005, 12:11 PM

*grunching*

I would be betting this all the way, especially on the turn, and if he wants to call the bet, then bet on the river as well.....

Then I would kick the cat when he turns over JJ.

MrBlueNose · #7 04-22-2005, 12:13 PM

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This is like, the easiest value bet in the world. And 3 bet if raised. You'll get called/raised by all sorts of crazy hands here since there are no face cards and most people just can't believe you could have the overpair you're representing.

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Exactly. I value bet this one in my sleep.

deception5 · #8 04-22-2005, 12:19 PM

You've been betting the whole way - they have no reason to think you'd be afraid of the third 3. If you bet you can still get called by a 4, 8, any other pocket pair, and probably Ace high. If you check you could be bluffed by the same hands but not all are going to call your check/raise. And I think this will be checked through far too often for it to be profitable.

Without a very specific read on this player I bet for value here.

car ramrod · #9 04-22-2005, 12:26 PM

I would bet this all day every day.
You have no read, so don't expect him to bet the river.

numeri · #10 04-22-2005, 12:30 PM

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Wow - easy easy bet on the river. What do you lose to? Any pocket pair lower than yours (except for 88 and 44) now has a full house and will call. MP2 has shown no aggression so far, so trying to 'induce a bluff' is really bad. Just trying to put MP2 on a hand is impossible - even a weak A might call here thinking you're bluffing.

Easiest bet ever.