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Old 01-29-2004, 05:25 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Come on Kurn

Sure, it's funny but think of how some newbie might read it. We don't want to scare them away because they're afraid of the boogeyman.

Plus, it's clogging up the board.
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: The Ethics of Pattern Mapping

I agree it's amusung, but damn, that thing took on a life of its own. I was amazed at the sheer number of people in that original thread who were able to make those posts with a "straight face" and not go over the top, which is what made them quasi-believable (the fact that so many WANT to belive it's rigged didn't hurt either)

It's kind of like the old Orson Welles "War of the Worlds" radio thing. You could do quite a sociology study on this pattern mapping thing. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 01-29-2004, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: The Ethics of Pattern Mapping

Well,
I don't know what Ulysses is talking about, but at least one site's RNG was cracked by a Computer Security Company.

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/ent...11070_616221_1

Sincerely,
AA
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Old 01-29-2004, 09:04 PM
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Default Agree, it has essentially taken over the board and it\'s misleading n/m

n/m
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Old 01-30-2004, 05:25 AM
Franchise (TTT) Franchise (TTT) is offline
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Default Re: The Ethics of Pattern Mapping

Can the original few posters (Ulysses, et al.) just post a mocking retraction or something we can point people to?
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: The Ethics of Pattern Mapping

Enough?
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: The Ethics of Pattern Mapping

I believe they are only 30% accurate and as such not really very helpful.

Dammit, I was using the old style log6 map

Is this implying that my 300 alien posts on here are all worthless?

I'm afraid the pattern map is currently not for sale given the new log8 information I have.

As 4s Jd Qc 2c
You just enjoy making things hard for people, you could have picked an easier one.

and of course, the very first post I made in the thread....

Now then........ If YOU could easily predict cards at Party, would YOU be playing .5/1 at Paradise?

The amusing thing is that when Paradise was the #1 site, you would hear this conversation at sites other than Paradise saying that the Paradise game was rigged.



Many people here have played me at .5/1 at Paradise.

Lori
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Old 01-30-2004, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Come on Kurn

You know, if they actually READ the thing, instead of skimming through it, they'd realize what it really was. There are so many posts (in the original thread and others) that say or imply that it's a joke. Maybe they should read them.

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Sure, it's funny but think of how some newbie might read it. We don't want to scare them away because they're afraid of the boogeyman.

Plus, it's clogging up the board.

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Old 01-31-2004, 01:36 AM
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Default HOWTO make Pattern Mapping obsolete!

Okay, maybe I'm out of line, and my colleagues in the computer world may scoff at this (for several reasons---though not likely the ones you'd expect); but, I believe the solution to this problem is programmers who aren't lazy: Instead of relying on conventional Random Number Generation (RNG) technology to pick the cards, psudo-randomly from an virtually ordered deck, with a little more computational overhead, a realistic simulation of a disordered deck of cards could be substituted that would mimic all of the real dealer procedures down to the alternation of cards in the riffle-strip-riffle-riffle-cut sequence... This would use the RNG for different purposes at different times to simulate the real disorder of cards in play that happens at a B&M poker table (initial wash; dealing single cards to fill each hand in the standard order; where folded hands' cards end up in the muck; the consistency of the dealer's riffle, strip, and cut; etc.). I've written such a procedure for Monte-Carlo simulations of Blackjack in the past, and as long as care is taken to accurately duplicate the card-handling of real-life, I can see no reason for Pattern Mapping to persist because of the infinitely greater standard deviation introduced by dealing from the top of a virtually disordered deck (which I suspect is unheard of in the industry at this time due to conventional programming practices that have too much emphasis on Rapid Application Development and careless reliance on the fallacy that RNG is "good enough"---especially for a game of poker, where the proprietor's money is not at risk! The perception [by a cardroom's clientele] of propriety is paramount if you wish to retain your customers---a well known fact in the B&M casino industry---its time has come for online gaming!

BTW, if there are any online gambling executives reading this, I would be happy to discuss this issue in greater detail as a consultant ;-) You can reach me at c.zar@rogers.com I have an extensive track-record in web-application development and database support which includes having play-tested and criticised the Blackjack game offered by Blackplanet.com at the invitation of the CTO for CommunityConnect.com, Mike Montero.
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Old 01-31-2004, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: Come on Kurn

It was funny like how saturday night live used to be funny....now its just really old and tired.

This was back in the day, but I believe it was on the tonight show when johnny carson was the host. He talked about how there was going to be a shortage of toilet paper (when there really wasnt), and it actually caused everyone to go out and buy toilet paper and actually created a shortage. Remember after 9/11 when some idiot said you should go buy gas because it was going to get hiked to $5 a gallon, and every idiot in the country (which by my estimate is 95% of 250 million) ran out to buy gas, and it got jacked to $5 a gallon before the government stepped in.

people are stupid. we make our money off of stupid people. why get the stupid people to believe that poker is rigged, when in the back of thier minds they already believe it anyway.

Don't [censored] where you eat, or however that saying goes.
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