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Old 11-17-2005, 06:38 AM
POKhER POKhER is offline
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Default Re: Confused with QQ

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<Grunch (and the answer may already be here, but...)>

Agreed, his preflop cap makes me nervous</grunch>

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How did you grunch, Then agree with a previous poster? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


Raise the turn, Flop raise is ok but anyone with a gutshot has pot odds to call. Also i think we're ahead and treat UTG "donk cap" as a "Gee its goign to be capped, So i'll do it" action.

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Old 11-17-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Confused with QQ

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How did you grunch, Then agree with a previous poster? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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That said, do I give villain credit for a set/AA/KK in this spot?

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I'm so confused. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] This is what I get for responding to posts while multitabling 1/2 6-max. I GOTTA quit doing that!

Edit: BUT, after reading the responses today while at work, I think I'm also leaning towards raising the turn. The "waiting for the turn raise" is something I always forget about and something I really need to work on adding to my game.
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Old 11-17-2005, 03:46 PM
MN_Mime MN_Mime is offline
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Default Re: Confused with QQ

*grunch*

Preflop, you're about a coin flip if you could get it headsup against a reasonable PFR/cap. About the same on the flop.

However, you've got 2 cold-callers almost certainly contributing chips here. Against a reason PFR and 2 random hands you're over 40% equity. If would be hard to manufacture non random hands that can call the pre-flop cap AND be ahead of you on the flop.

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That said, I'm raising the flop. The bettor could be legit or a maniac and either one helps protect your hand here. I'm inclined to think a flop cap serves no purpose.

I'm also raising the turn but this might be a leak. The turn helped nobody except a BDFD or a random underpair, so this raise is for value. At this point, a thinking apponent has to consider the possibility that you have an overpair or a set of 9s. If he still doesn't slow down, I think you're beat but are best to call down.

When the river brings the flush, I think you call and expect to lose to one of your cold-callers.
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: Confused with QQ

I would raise the flop. Not to say that it's a good idea to fold on the end, but if CO is solid and rational, we are only ahead of JJ here.
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Old 11-17-2005, 11:50 PM
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What do all of the *Grunches* mean? (Sorry, I'm new to limit, as my OP said)

ALl of you are advocating raising the flop, which I can see now, then what happens if I get Reraised? Do I call down, cap, or fold? I'm so bad at thinking like the players at .25/.50, this guy could have unimproved AK, AA/KK/Set, or even TPGK. I guess the raise gives me more information.

Anyway, thanks for helping me stop being a donkey at limit.
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