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Old 09-15-2005, 05:13 PM
Xizor Xizor is offline
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Default Basic AK question

First of all. Hello to you all, I'm new in this forum so please don't be too harsh on me.
I have been lurking for a couple of weeks and decided I would post a hand for a change:
The hand history is gone for some reason so I'll write it off my memory.

I'm playing Prima 2/4$ full ring four tabling and reading 2+2.

All relevant stacksizes are $400 I don't have a read on the villain in this hand, but I haven't seen him get out of line.

I am dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

1 fold, a very good player limps, I raise $16 a guy in MP calls and a guy in LP calls, blinds fold and the limper before me calls.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] pot is $70

Checked to me, I bet $45, MP folds, LP clickraises to $90, the early limper folds.

What's my move? What does his raise mean?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:01 PM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default Re: Basic AK question

It means you bet too weakly on the flop and he could do this with any ace or flush draw. You can call and bet on non flush trun and fold to a riase, but I like pushing sometimes too. Curtious if anyone advoctaes calling this raise and checking turn.
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:55 AM
Xizor Xizor is offline
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Default Re: Basic AK question

Should I lead for full pot on the flop here?
Do you really think he would do this with any ace?

Other comments are welcome
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:51 AM
AdamBragar AdamBragar is offline
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Default Re: Basic AK question

I think that there will be times that you're facing a set or 2 pair. There will also be times you are facing a club draw or a weaker ace or there are even players that do this with 1010. I'd call the flop and look to get money in on any non club turn. If he checks the turn, clearly bet because odds are good he's giving up on the hand.
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Old 09-16-2005, 11:12 AM
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LP likes his ace and/or flush draw and your underbet smells weak to him. You probably have the best hand right now. I think I might push to price out the flush draw.
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Old 09-18-2005, 07:07 AM
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Default Result and conclusion

I thought about it, and folded which I afterwards felt was the wrong thing to do.

Thanks for your input. I think I'll mix it up a bit here and first of all bet a bit more on the flop. If he raises I might either push or call and bet a non club turn.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Result and conclusion

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I thought about it, and folded which I afterwards felt was the wrong thing to do.


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you folded? it was 45 back to you in a 205 pot right?

you have to call this and press hard when the turn bricks. the posters before you are correct.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:00 PM
Ryendal Ryendal is offline
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Default Re: Result and conclusion

I am not agree on te assertion that te flop bet is too weak.
Every body is agree with that ?
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:09 PM
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Every body is agree with that ?

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yes.

but from there you have to pick up the pieces and make the best of the hand.
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Old 09-18-2005, 02:33 PM
Ryendal Ryendal is offline
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My question is not for the 2 players who said yes.
I still don't believe the raise was too weak.

I need more answers to confirm this.
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