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Old 07-12-2005, 04:03 AM
ShortySaurus ShortySaurus is offline
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Default Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

Villain is horrible with about $3000 and Hero has about $4000. Hero is LP with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Villain is SB.

MP limps, Hero raises to 80, Button calls, SB calls, Limper calls. 4 to the flop.

Flop ($340)
T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 200, Button folds, SB thinks and says one time and calls, MP folds.

Turn: ($740)
6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Sb checks, Hero bets 400, SB check raises to 1000 total.

What is your plan to stack off this horrible player? I am pretty sure he will not fold a flush because he is really really bad.
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:08 AM
tiger_style tiger_style is offline
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

there are the scary rivers to consider

another spade, a 5, a ten, etc

let him call it off right here
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

calling and pushing the river seems best if he's a bluffer. otherwise just put it in here.

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Old 07-12-2005, 10:20 AM
Percula Percula is offline
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

From his comment it sounds like he hit his flush, push it AI.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

i push here 100% of the time...if he is as bad as you say, hes not folding
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

After you call the pot will be $2700, and he will be about $1700 behind. If he is really bad I think you should just get more money in the middle now. All-in would work, even re-raising $800 more and pushing the river. I think a spade a Ten or a Six could kill your action on the river.
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

Haven't read the replies but I call the turn raise or min raise and push all-in on the river while praying the board doesn't pair again for fear that it could slow him down. He will likely put it in the middle anyways if it doesn't pair.
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Old 07-12-2005, 03:03 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

[ QUOTE ]
What is your plan to stack off this horrible player? I am pretty sure he will not fold a flush because he is really really bad.

[/ QUOTE ]go ahead and move in now... seems like this is almost a sure thing against this guy.
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Old 07-12-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

If he's really *that* bad, he's not folding a flush here, right? And that's pretty clearly what he's got; check-calls a two-tone flop and CR's the turn when the three-flush hits . . .

Lots of river cards can kill your action--a six or ten, as someone mentioned, but also another spaid if villain has a baby flush--so I think I just push. Against even a semi-decent villain, it will be obvious that you're not scared of the flush, and I would favor waiting until the river to make your move, to let villain lead out and put some more money in the pot while drawing dead, therefore giving him more attractive pot odds and making it tougher for him to lay down his flush assuming a non-scary river card falls. But it sounds like this guy laying down a flush here isn't of concern, so I fancy a push.
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Live Commerce 10-20 NL against a really bad player with position

If your sure he wont fold move all in. I suspect he has a 5. But thats my take. Normally i just reraise but if you think it will work move in.
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