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Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
Villain is very passive and reasonably tight.
VPIP 23, PFR 7, AF .8 Party 15/30 Hold'em (8 handed) Preflop: Hero is Button with Th, Tc. 1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 caps, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls. Flop: (17 SB) 3c, 6h, 2s (4 players) SB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (11.50 BB) 5s (3 players) UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. River: (14.50 BB) 9h (3 players) UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 raises, Hero folds. |
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
No way I fold here.
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
I agree, I think you have to call.
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
call
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
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No way I fold here. [/ QUOTE ] I dunno. Maybe it's a bad fold, but I don't think it's more than a small mistake if it is. |
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
why even risk the river bet? You have had two callers down to the river I think you have made enough money already. Why not just check behind on the river to get the free showden and see if your medium over pair actually hold up? Maybe this is too weak but it just seems as if the villian played this perfectly allowing you to fatten the pot for him to take down in the end. They were not both going to fold to a river bet, so I think a check behind maybe in order.
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
"they were both not going to fold to a river bet"
isnt this the definiton of a value bet.. ?? you have to bet this river, am i wrong? |
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
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but I don't think it's more than a small mistake if it is. [/ QUOTE ] What hand are you putting him on? Seems to me if he had a set he would have check/raised the turn. Most likely hands seem to be A9/9x to me. |
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
obviously a somewhat passive player C/R the river is cause for concern but the pot is so large you need to call.
I can't rely on a set of #'s here (how many hands were they over?) to make a fold with an overpair on a fairly unthreatening board getting 17 to 1. He played it too bizarre to make me believe he has a 4 or a set that is not 99. |
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Re: Party 15: Agonizing river fold.
This you can't fold. Call and lose, but don't fold.
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