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Old 09-21-2004, 07:28 PM
Yeknom58 Yeknom58 is offline
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Default How do you play this draw?

PP 100 max NL, 1-2 blinds.

ME:145
Opponent:190

I have As 8s in MP.

It's folded to me and I raise it to 7, the CO Reraises me to 15, the SB folds and the BB calls and I call.

Flop: [6c 7s 9s]

BB checks, I bet 15, CO Raises it to 50, BB folds, what is my play?
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Old 09-21-2004, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: How do you play this draw?

Easy push! Against almost every hand you will be the favourite.

I would think he has KK... that would give you 18 outs!
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Old 09-21-2004, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: How do you play this draw?

You're really only behind here to a set or T8. I think this is a pretty easy push.
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Old 09-22-2004, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: How do you play this draw?

all in.
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Old 09-22-2004, 01:06 AM
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Default Result

I pushed, he called with AA and I missed on the end.

I wanted to get all the chips in the middle but I was wondering what you all think of my 15 dollar lure bet?
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:04 AM
ZManODS ZManODS is offline
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Default Re: How do you play this draw?

Should you always be taking these coinflip situations in NL? I can give him 15 outs which makes him about a .85:1 underdog. Granted its a little in his favorite, but should you always be making these calls? It seems very unlikely that the oppenent will fold so the fold equity is 0.

Im new to NL so i think ive been playing too weak-tight.
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:14 AM
GimmeDaWatch GimmeDaWatch is offline
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Default Re: Result

What was the point of "lure bet"? Were you hoping to draw cheaply or represent a set when you ultimately moved in (I will often play a set this way, but it doesnt seem to make overpairs fold any more often)? You are a small favorite and there's already a decent amount in the pot so you pretty much have to move-in, although this sort of thing will definitely cause greater swings in your bankroll.
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:22 PM
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Assuming his preflop raise meant some large PP (JJ-AA) or AK go to any poker hand analyzer put in that board my hand and KK and then tell me what you think of my push. Then put in AA and you'll see that pushing and getting all the chips in the middle is a pretty good move. I don't remember exactly but if he has KK-JJ I'm a heavy favorite in the range of 62% and if he has AA I'm a small favorite in the range of 54%. I could have just pushed hoping he would fold any paired hand (except AA/KK he would never fold) but I felt like I had a large enought edge that I wanted to trap him for some chips and if he called I wouldn't really mind.
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: How do you play this draw?

I may not have tons of folding equity if my opponent has TT/JJ/QQ but I definitely have more than none, and if he calls with TT-KK I'm like over a 60% favorite with us chopping like 5% of the time so he loses about 35% of the time. If he has AA granted I'm only a small favorite but if I always put my opponent on Aces I would never call any bets.

My small bet into this pot stinks of weakness and if I had JJ in my opponents spot I would put in a sizeable raise here and would sometimes fold to an allin re-raise even if the pot was offering me like 3-1.
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